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1. DeonPe+ek[view] [source] 2020-06-15 04:40:00
>>dtagam+(OP)
The fact that is even possible is insane. Imagine there being over 700 videos of pilots messing up in one month, 700 crane operator mishaps in a month, 700+ food poising by a chain in a month. The also imagine you believe there's no problem.

This is Ba Sing Se levels of delusion for some people.

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2. devcpp+3n[view] [source] 2020-06-15 05:17:47
>>DeonPe+ek
To be fair you are comparing an adversarial job with a cooperative one. A crane operator won't feel unsafe, or confronted by someone he calls hostile. This is no excuse whatsoever for the multitude of outraging problems in the system, but the comparison isn't straightforward.
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3. baddox+En[view] [source] 2020-06-15 05:23:32
>>devcpp+3n
Quite the opposite. The adversarial job should have higher standards of conduct, not lower.
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4. alexas+aG[view] [source] 2020-06-15 08:43:00
>>baddox+En
All humans, not just jobs, should have higher standards of conduct, don't you think?

Where are you going to get the humans who are able, wanting and willing to live up those higher standards is my question for you.

Last I checked, anyone can decide at any moment to be completely broke, a drug addict, a criminal, an alcoholic, a piece of shit, have an unlimited number of children and everyone else has to support them for some reason.

What kind of standard of conduct is that?

You won't ever get people to conduct themselves properly if ignore evolution and pretend you can magically educate people into not being animals. Americans don't even bother with trying to live up to the education myth, given how much they pay school teachers. They think they can just import people with higher standards of conduct when they have to and outsource the rest. It's more profitable this way you see, to ignore reality, fund bogus economics, manufacture consent and have this planet go to shit. It's more profitable this quarter you see.

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5. baddox+jI[view] [source] 2020-06-15 09:06:41
>>alexas+aG
If you can’t find someone to fill a position as a police officer, I would suggest increasing the compensation or leaving the position unfilled before simply accepting anyone who might want to be a cop with no standards whatsoever.

Similar logic would apply to a position for a crane operator or a pilot. If an airline had a pattern of pilot errors, and their excuse was “if we required all our pilots to have adequate pilot training and meet stringent skill requirements, it would be very difficult to hire pilots,” would you accept that?

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6. alexas+UJ[view] [source] 2020-06-15 09:25:11
>>baddox+jI
I've thought of a shorter way to answer your question.

> If you can’t find someone to fill a position as a police officer, I would suggest increasing the compensation or leaving the position unfilled before simply accepting anyone who might want to be a cop with no standards whatsoever.

Let's say we decide to pay police officers 1 million/year and really raise their standards. Great! We did it!

Why don't we just do that across the board? The answer is - we have a limited number of highly capable people.

I see the shortage of highly capable people as a problem. My previous post was a way of highlighting that. One would have to think big picture to understand the point I was making.

Regarding leaving positions unfilled - I'm not sure you've thought this through. Imagine we have a shortage of doctors and your appendix burst. Would you rather a medical student try and save your life at say, an estimated 50% success rate, or simply die?

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