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1. nindal+K6[view] [source] 2019-10-04 07:08:50
>>stargr+(OP)
This link and the two answers within demonstrate something important, broader than the DNS related issue at hand.

Both make implicit assumptions. One assumes the worst of Cloudflare and thinks “what’s the worst reason Cloudflare could have for doing this. How do they profit off this?” And the other assumes that Cloudflare has good intentions.

Neither answer is technically wrong. Both flow logically from their initial assumptions. But it shows how different our conclusions can be depending on where our initial biases lie. For the person who believes the first answer and says “prove to me that Cloudflare isn’t doing something nefarious”, it’s not possible. The analysis is correct and can’t be challenged unless the initial assumption is challenged. And for people who strongly believe that Cloudflare has bad intentions, nothing can be done to change their mind.

In this example it’s Cloudflare but it applies to any person or organisation that we feel strongly about.

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2. nabla9+Ha[view] [source] 2019-10-04 08:01:55
>>nindal+K6
You have to look at Cloudflare user agreement's and texts that describe their relationship to their customers. https://www.cloudflare.com/privacypolicy/ and https://developers.cloudflare.com/1.1.1.1/commitment-to-priv...

You can only held companies accountable for the laws and explicit written promises and legally binding agreements.

Currently the price companies pay for privacy violations is low. If a company like Cloudflare writes down all the privacy promise in legally bind manner and puts themselves into legal and financial liability that is above the norm for breaking the contract intentionally it can increase trust.

Companies can do much more than they do now. They can put explicit bounties for whistle blowing them and revealing privacy violations. They can hire trusted third parties to do privacy audits and handle whistle blowing.

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3. Thorre+zc[view] [source] 2019-10-04 08:28:32
>>nabla9+Ha
> They can put explicit bounties for whistle blowing them and revealing privacy violations.

Employees blowing the whistle internally, or externally? If they want to encourage employees to blow the whistle externally, they could put a carve out for that in their NDA.

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