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>>tech-h+(OP)
I thought this story had already been reported a month ago. But no, I was wrong, that was the other organizer of the Google Protests, Claire Stapleton:

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2019/jun/07/google-wa...

So to clarify, both of the female Google employees who lead/organized the protests have now left because they say they faced retaliation. That looks very bad for Google.

>>Admira+md
Looks good for Google to me. These protests were getting out of hand, and their demands were showing some major entitlement.

>>lawnch+me
They're the people making Google work. Why shouldn't they be entitled?

>>geofft+ye
Some people think the leaders of Google are entitled to unilaterally decide what people at Google work on, and if you resist that sense of entitlement, people call you entitled.

>>qntty+ph
If you're the one paying for the work, you're entitled to say what the work will be. In this case 'you' is Google shareholders, through their representatives.

Nobody is entitled to be paid to do what they choose. If you want to do something for your own personal reasons, do it off the clock.

>>jlawso+no
There's no good reason to think like this. If you're the one doing the work, you're entitled to say collectively with your fellow employees what it should be.

>>qntty+jp
You are completely in your rights to get together with your fellow employees - or anyone else - to do anything you want.

And others are entitled not to pay you to do things they don't want you to do.

Nobody is forced to do things they don't want.

Nobody is forced to pay money to others.

But employment is an agreement between people. The employer agrees to pay, and the other agrees to follow directions of the employer (within the limits of their specific agreement).

If you go to a restaurant and order a burger, and they instead bring you a cake, you'd be well within your rights to refuse payment and complain. The fact that the chef wanted to make a cake is irrelevant, because the chef is being paid by you. (In contrast, if you were to go to friend's house, and he gave you a cake, you could not complain because you're not paying for it.)

>>jlawso+gL
The value created by employees rightfully belongs to employees and should be created on their terms. It isn't employees who are hired by managers, it's managers who are hired by employees to manage and sell the things they create. Employees ought to have the right to dictate the terms that their managers are being hired on.