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1. murbar+04[view] [source] 2019-07-02 15:29:33
>>el_dud+(OP)
The US is forcing its tourists to give away a list of all their social media accounts and all their email accounts. If you're a foreign journalist writing pseudonymously for your safety, you must now share that information with the US government to enter the country. This isn't quite on the level of forcing people to install malware on their phone yet, but give it a couple years.
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2. panark+ph[view] [source] 2019-07-02 16:47:33
>>murbar+04
> The US ...

This style of argument is deflection, and it gets us nowhere.

It's very effective in redirecting the focus away from one bad actor and onto another bad actor, though.

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3. bduers+no[view] [source] 2019-07-02 17:28:21
>>panark+ph
Call it what it is: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whataboutism
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4. theslu+Do[view] [source] 2019-07-02 17:29:28
>>bduers+no
Can you explain what's wrong with whataboutism?
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5. TheGRS+uC[view] [source] 2019-07-02 18:50:56
>>theslu+Do
Other than being a logical fallacy it's also a race to the bottom in terms of what we (as a society) deem appropriate. "Oh what I did was wrong? Well what about that guy over there? Why aren't you judging him first?" The argument is usually in bad faith as if one problem can't be solved until we've dealt with everything else that's worse.
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