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1. tosser+aH[view] [source] 2018-09-12 02:27:34
>>tysone+(OP)
Wage growth would help, but for some reason, these articles never even mention immigration. The scale of immigration both legal and illegal I believe has the greatest impact on the lowest sectors of society. The lack of discussion on the impact so many potential new workers is having on wage growth leads one to think they believe labor cost is the one thing immune to the law of supply and demand.
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2. sdinsn+dI[view] [source] 2018-09-12 02:38:44
>>tosser+aH
I'd argue that legal immigration has the greatest impact on higher sectors of society- such as salaries in software / IT. This can be fixed by raising the minimum pay for H1Bs. I'd believe that illegal immigration has a incredibly small effect overall.
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3. kevin_+SN[view] [source] 2018-09-12 04:27:11
>>sdinsn+dI
The illegals are all picking strawberries for below minimum wage so we don't have the bear the true costs of our food. Remove them and there would be serious repercussions for those at the lower strata of society.
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4. fzeror+iQ[view] [source] 2018-09-12 05:08:05
>>kevin_+SN
As you've mentioned the real cost of food and farming in the US is effectively heavily subsidized by the fact that many of said farms employ illegal immigrants for labor, both because they refuse to pay minimum wage and because Americans as a whole seem to refuse to do said jobs.

Legal immigration has a comparatively small effect due to the fact that they're part of the skilled labor force and generally fill gaps in our society. The number of people actually holding H1Bs is so small that I find it hard to believe they have any major pull on the various sectors outside of the few firms that are known to be abusing the system.

Fixing the system in a humane way that also doesn't blow up the lower classes is a herculean task.

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5. chrisb+vV[view] [source] 2018-09-12 06:29:04
>>fzeror+iQ
If we raised farm labor wages by 40% it would cost the consumer less than $25 a year.

”For a typical household, a 40 percent increase in farm labor costs translates into a four percent increase in retail prices (0.30 farm share of retail prices x 0.33 farm labor share of farm revenue = 10 percent, farm labor costs rise 40 percent, and 0.4 x 10 = 3.6 percent). If farm wages rose 40 percent, and the increase were passed on fully to consumers, average spending on fresh fruits and vegetables would rise by about $21 a year (4 percent x $530 = $21).

Giving seasonal farm workers a 40 percent wage increase, on the other hand, would raise their average earnings from $11,720 for 1,000 hours of work to $16,400, lifting the average worker above the federal poverty line of $11,770 for an individual in 2015.”

https://migration.ucdavis.edu/rmn/more.php?id=2005

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6. jpttsn+YY[view] [source] 2018-09-12 07:25:17
>>chrisb+vV
I dont think the average consumer wants to pay $25 more per year.
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7. Tempes+s21[view] [source] 2018-09-12 08:16:48
>>jpttsn+YY
We do like inexpensive merchandise.

http://dilbert.com/strip/2007-05-01

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