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>>tysone+(OP)
Poverty in America is a result of American capitalism, at a very high level. At a very very high level, it is caused by human greed, and a lack of love for our neighbors.

We can talk about wages and employment rates, and race all day long, but those are just details. It's human greed in the end, and our inability to love others like we love ourselves.

>>brickc+73
Is that why hunter gatherer societies didn't have poverty? Is that why communist countries weren't poor? How is that working out for Venezuela? Capitalism is literally the only thing in human history that has ever lifted large numbers of people out of poverty.

>>darawk+bG
Hi. China is calling.

>>whatev+vH
China is successful now entirely as a result of their conversion to capitalism. This is an extremely well known fact about China. China tried communism, it went absolutely terribly. They changed to capitalism, and things got good. I can't imagine an example that more perfectly agrees with my point.

>>darawk+tJ
How is Facebook doing in capitalist China?

>>whatev+kM
Facebook is banned behind the Great Firewall.

Regardless, what does this have to do with the discussion?

>>acchow+0P
The People do not have stake at company A. Company A does not share the true values of the People. Company A is now banned. Repeat until all companies comply.

>>whatev+0Q
True. But what does this have to do with poverty levels discussed here?

>>virapt+dR
That you cannot call capitalism any successful economic system. China proved that a protectionist model with colossal government intervention can successfully reduce poverty.

>>whatev+jT
I believe we mean "capitalism" as in capital is held by private owners in search of profit instead of owned by the state. Not necessarily free trade with other countries.

China has a sort of partial capitalism in that some big companies are 50% owned by the state.