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1. javert+(OP)[view] [source] 2015-05-29 21:46:35
Speaking as someone who's on your side in this debate...

Rights are what you get if a bunch of rational, self-interested people get together and say, "What ought we be allowed to do without interference?"

There is a single, correct, rational answer to that: you ought to be allowed to do anything that doesn't initiate force against someone else. All rights are a function of that single fundamental observation.

Every rational, fully self-interested person (who has studied the topic a lot) will agree on this.

So that's where rights come from... they are a human construct, but there's also a single, objectively correct answer.

So they don't come from "Laws of Nature" or the Founding Fathers.

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2. teduna+a2[view] [source] 2015-05-29 22:14:35
>>javert+(OP)
Well, no shit. All the rational people agree with you, and everyone who disagrees is irrational. Didn't see that coming.
3. titani+e6[view] [source] 2015-05-29 23:06:02
>>javert+(OP)
> So that's where rights come from... they are a human construct, but there's also a single, objectively correct answer.

Ironically (since you are obviously a rational, self interested person), this statement is objectively false.

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4. javert+Bi1[view] [source] [discussion] 2015-05-31 01:49:49
>>titani+e6
I would appreciate an explanation for why you say that.
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