zlacker

[parent] [thread] 3 comments
1. sheepm+(OP)[view] [source] 2015-05-23 06:01:45
"They've already accepted your offer"

What makes you think the kind of reference checks the article is talking about happens after an offer has been made and accepted?

In my experience these kind of reference checks happen well before an offer is made, and they are often run in parallel on the top few candidates. So the majority of people reference checked are not offered the role.

"And what, you think a past coworker is going to contact an employee's current boss and tell him the employee's going to leave?"

I've seen word get around plenty of times even without any backdoor reference checks going on.

"avoiding bad employees certainly is good for the market"

Except if you don't know the person you are talking to then how can you judge the accuracy of what they have to say when they provide a reference?

Edit: In fact if they want to do it it should be stated as part of their application process. Then people who feel it is invasive and unethical can simply not apply for those jobs. And if they do a great job at weeding out bad apples then eventually it will become accepted practice.

replies(1): >>SamRei+H
2. SamRei+H[view] [source] 2015-05-23 06:33:12
>>sheepm+(OP)
> What makes you think the kind of reference checks the article is talking about happens after an offer has been made and accepted?

It talks about checking the references given by the candidate in the same breath, there's a certain spatial locality there. Also whatever vagueness there is in the article does not open up the door for unqualified bitching.

> Except if you don't know the person you are talking to then how can you judge the accuracy of what they have to say when they provide a reference?

Using social skills.

replies(1): >>michae+1h
◧◩
3. michae+1h[view] [source] [discussion] 2015-05-23 15:31:56
>>SamRei+H
Using social skills.

I am not the most socially skilled person in the world. On the field, I doubt I'm even 50th percentile. Probably 35th, to be honest.

That said, judging from everything you've posted, you're a fucking poster boy for the Dunning-Kruger Effect. So... I lolt. Nice job. You got a chuckle and two-thirds out of me.

replies(1): >>SamRei+RA
◧◩◪
4. SamRei+RA[view] [source] [discussion] 2015-05-23 21:18:10
>>michae+1h
Actually, I'm quite aware that the output half of my "social skills" is horrible.
[go to top]