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1. lostlo+(OP)[view] [source] 2012-12-14 18:46:49
Then why is this problem more prevalent in America? I know this sounds like baiting, it isn't. Surely gun laws come into it, even if they aren't the root cause (they aren't IMHO).
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2. bstewa+v[view] [source] 2012-12-14 18:50:36
>>lostlo+(OP)
I don't know. Is it in fact more prevalent in America? I don't know just asking. It is a societal and cultural problem IMO.
3. short_+O1[view] [source] 2012-12-14 19:00:38
>>lostlo+(OP)
I can't say for sure but I suspect the problem in the US stems from a number of factors not at all related to gun laws. Just a short list (for overall gun violence):

1) The way our prison system works. It makes people worse. It makes them better criminals. It removes much of their opportunity to get better (try getting a decent job as a felon). It creates desperation. 2) the way we treat mental illness. By that I mean it is demonized and ignored. Does health insurance even cover mental health exams or treatments? Probably not basic coverage 3) Disparity of wealth. In the town I live in there are people living in absolute poverty and people driving around in lamborghinis and million dollar churches. The cost of that car could feed 50 people for a year.

In thiscase there is no telling what the root cause was yet. I suspect a case of someone just losing it.

4. joseph+l7[view] [source] 2012-12-14 19:52:26
>>lostlo+(OP)
Britain [not counting Northern Ireland] (about 1/6 the population of the US) and with really quite tight gun controls has had three murder sprees since 1987 that killed more than 10 people (all of which used guns). The worst of these (in 1987) led to a significant tightening of gun controls. Additional gun controls were also brought in after the 1996 attack on primary school in Scotland.

http://www.murderuk.com/mass_murderers.html

Other attacks have occurred at schools without guns including this one with a machete that resulted in injuries but no deaths: http://news.bbc.co.uk/onthisday/hi/dates/stories/july/8/news....

I would suggest that perhaps there is also a societal issue in the US compared to Britain causing these things (in addition to the affect of the larger population) but the most important aspect may be the greater availability of firearms that gives opportunity to people that may not carry out the act if they need time and preparation AND it greatly increases the lethality of attacks that do take place.

Note this excludes terrorism where numerous incidents have had a bigger death toll but those planned coordinated attacks and I think a different category from the sort of incident today.

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