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Ah, we have converted a technical problem into a social problem. Historically those are vastly easier to solve, right?

Spam filters exist. Why do we need to bring politics into it? Reminds me of the whole CoC mess a few years back.

Every time somebody talks about a new AI thing the lament here goes:

> BUT THINK OF THE JUNIORS!

How do you expect this system to treat juniors? How do your juniors ever gain experience committing to open source? who vouches for them?

This is a permanent social structure for a transient technical problem.

>>ctoth+(OP)
> Ah, we have converted a technical problem into a social problem.

Surely you mean this the other way around?

Mitchell is trying to address a social problem with a technical solution.

>>ctoth+(OP)
"Juniors" (or anyone besides maintainers) do not fundamentally have a right to contribute to an open source project. Before this system they could submit a PR, but that doesn't mean anyone would look at it. Once you've internalized that reality, the rest flows from there.

>>WatchD+sc
Nope, I meant what I originally said.

The problem is technical: too many low-quality PRs hitting an endpoint. Vouch's solution is social: maintain trust graphs of humans.

But the PRs are increasingly from autonomous agents. Agents don't have reputations. They don't care about denounce lists. They make new accounts.

We solved unwanted automated input for email with technical tools (spam filters, DKIM, rate limiting), not by maintaining curated lists of Trusted Emailers. That's the correct solution category. Vouch is a social answer to a traffic-filtering problem.

This may solve a real problem today, but it's being built as permanent infrastructure, and permanent social gatekeeping outlasts the conditions that justified it.