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Correct bit for screwdriver available on AliExpress 5 minutes after the bolt is available for public.

>>genera+(OP)
Fine. But the broader point is that the customer is the product, not the owner of a purchase.

>>genera+(OP)
And that would violate both BMWs Trademark and Patent, which at least in Switzerland could mean having to pay BMW damages and get fined for importing counterfeit goods.

>>nic547+zD
good thing that it would be a chinese copy, and thus, not subject to switzerland law. So i wonder if chinese law recognize this patent/trademark for a screw?

>>chii+WG
Their point is that there's a possibility that Swiss customs fines them and confiscates the "counterfeit."

>>smitty+l1
That makes me wonder if customer is the product, who is the owner?

>>nic547+zD
Anyone with a mill could fabricate something to fit that in a short space of time.

>>Cpoll+PW
Maybe, the problem is that customs are not opening every package and as long as manufacturer won't name the copy as "screwdriver for patented BMW screw" but something more like screwdriver SN-2249 then how customs would know what that screwdriver is for?

>>Cpoll+PW
What's the reality of that happening though? I feel like they have bigger fish to fry than going after people for buying one screwdriver bit.

>>garyfi+951
BMW Financial Services.

Very few people in Europe 'own' their cars nowadays.

>>chii+WG
IANAL, but as fas as I know when you're importing it from China, you are subject to local laws (and may pay the fine for importing a ccopy of a trademarked product).

>>genera+3j1
Customs could just ask you for a declaration, where if you lied and they found out later, you'd suffer a heavier penalty. I dont know if they do that right now (not familiar with it).

>>chii+DV2
What would they found? I have ordered screwdriver SN-2249. Customs sees screwdriver SN-2249 on manifest and on invoice. What that screwdriver is used for? For tightening and loosing screws, duh. In no step of the process I have lied.