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1. kevinm+(OP)[view] [source] 2026-02-05 04:06:11
There's a story about, I think, the kickboxer/fighter Alistair Overeem that he was playing Connect 4, and lost, and kept demanding rematches until he had the winning record. Just a refusal to be the loser. That matches every story I've ever heard about Michael Jordan.
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2. sherma+B1[view] [source] 2026-02-05 04:25:25
>>kevinm+(OP)
Miserable way to live, if you ask me.
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3. totets+Rh[view] [source] [discussion] 2026-02-05 07:12:08
>>sherma+B1
Everybody playing forced games of connect4 is the loser.
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4. kjksf+Ew[view] [source] 2026-02-05 09:20:21
>>kevinm+(OP)
At the same time, I can refuse to be a loser in chess and I'll still have 0% chance of beating Magnus Carlsen.

I'm very much a proponent of hard work to the best of your ability but I'm also a realist.

I'm pretty good at programming. I doubt Usain Bolt would ever be as good as I am at programming, even if he tried, and I certainly wouldn't be even close to be as good as Usain Bolt in running no matter how hard I tried.

I know how fast I was running in high school compared to 30 of my peers (my class) and there was never a path from there to a world class athlete.

5. hacker+yD4[view] [source] 2026-02-06 14:40:49
>>kevinm+(OP)
I always think of a kid who was a friend of my daughters. He just really liked winning. I mean, when I was a kid and our team won a soccer game I was happy enough. This kid - if his team was playing a tomato can of a team and the score was 12-0 he was just as ecstatic about making the score 13-0 as was with that first goal. I honestly think he was happier about that kind of game then a struggle to beat a reasonable opponent. Heaven forbid they should lose.

Oddly he drifted away from sports (physically he was too small and honestly fragile - 2 or 3 broken bones before he was 12) and into the arts.

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6. hacker+AD4[view] [source] [discussion] 2026-02-06 14:41:12
>>totets+Rh
The only winning move is not to play.
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