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1. theamk+(OP)[view] [source] 2026-02-04 20:28:42
I think political interference is a horrible thing for university education.

But that particular part - "laws requiring professors to publicly post their course outlines in searchable databases" - is great, and should be done everywhere. There are actually universities who _claim_ to have great math (or physics or other science) program, but actually just teach it at "advanced high school" level. So public syllabi - something that was very common in 2000's but going out of style today - are critical for anyone choosing the university to go to.

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2. mmooss+O6[view] [source] 2026-02-04 20:55:06
>>theamk+(OP)
> There are actually universities who _claim_ to have great math (or physics or other science) program, but actually just teach it at "advanced high school" level.

What do you mean by that? And could you give an example?

It's hard to imagine any university teaching science majors at 'advanced high school' level, as I understand it. I could see a US community college or almost any university teaching intro courses that way. I can't iamgine what a 4th year chemistry major would be studying that fits the scope of 'advanced high school'.

3. rahimn+V8[view] [source] 2026-02-04 21:06:12
>>theamk+(OP)
"I think political interference is a horrible thing for university education."

The University of California is one of the largest universities in the US. It is governed by a Board of Regents. The majority of those Regents are appointed by the state Governor.

Do you consider that 'political interference'?

One of the things those Regents did was vote to end the use of SAT scores in admissions. They did during a meeting in which several spoke of the value of the SAT. And they acted against the recommendations of the Academic Council's Standardized Testing Task Force.

You might think that the staggered and long terms protect against political interference/influence. But if that's the case, how do we explain how so many votes are unanimous when, on the day of the vote, some regents express opposing views?

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4. ebiest+Mf[view] [source] 2026-02-04 21:40:59
>>theamk+(OP)
So, that sounds fine in theory.

What's happening in practice, though, is a group of people (like Campus Watch) are looking specifically for anyone teaching gender, trans issues, race, and religion, and analyzing the coursework through their ideologies and harassing professors on account of it. And they're going through past years as well as present.

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5. janice+hg[view] [source] 2026-02-04 21:42:34
>>theamk+(OP)
Intent matters though. Malicious actors, who are very much in power, will use the information to target universities and ideas [1] they don't like. Don't build databases for your enemies. Censuses were a great tool too, until certain people took power, then destroying them became the moral thing to do [2].

[1] https://www.insidehighered.com/news/faculty-issues/academic-...

[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1943_Amsterdam_civil_registry_...

6. testin+Gh[view] [source] 2026-02-04 21:49:50
>>theamk+(OP)
> But that particular part - "laws requiring professors to publicly post their course outlines in searchable databases" - is great, and should be done everywhere.

You have to think about the consequences.

It seems like a great thing until doors are smashed down and people are taken away for discussing topics the current regime doesn’t want discussed.

7. coldte+mi[view] [source] 2026-02-04 21:53:30
>>theamk+(OP)
Nobody (roughly) is choosing the university to go to based on the syllabus. They choose it based on cost, exclusivity, and networking considerations.
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8. Eddy_V+vk[view] [source] [discussion] 2026-02-04 22:04:59
>>ebiest+Mf
Not sharing course outlines is not going to help make this problem better. Better to face those groups head on than hide.
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9. kybore+3o[view] [source] [discussion] 2026-02-04 22:22:17
>>rahimn+V8
> how do we explain how so many votes are unanimous when, on the day of the vote, some regents express opposing views?

That reminds me of the Politburo voting scene in The Death of Stalin. Small group politics at their finest.

Anyway, the UC Board of Regents is full of political hacks and corrupt cronies. Diane Feinstein's husband was famously a regent, while simultaneously serving as Chairman of both CBRE and his own leveraged buyout private equity firm.

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10. UncleM+wG[view] [source] [discussion] 2026-02-05 00:13:03
>>Eddy_V+vk
It observably does make it better.

A friend of mine was harassed by these sorts of groups for their teaching. They received death threats, hardcore pornography, and gore in their inbox from these chuds. The trigger was the availability of their course material online.

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11. Larrik+LK[view] [source] [discussion] 2026-02-05 00:45:16
>>Eddy_V+vk
Why should professors face death threats head on? What are they going to do differently besides self censor?
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12. UncleM+nS[view] [source] [discussion] 2026-02-05 01:48:31
>>rahimn+V8
Boards of Regents consistently suck shit. The rather famous "put your body upon the gears" speech was about the Berkeley Board. Leftists largely hate the boards of both public and private universities. They are often megarich people with minimal understanding of pedagogy or even university administration.
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13. belvie+aT[view] [source] [discussion] 2026-02-05 01:54:18
>>ebiest+Mf
I see what you are saying, but not publishing the materials is not going to solve the problem. That's because the people who are attacking the professors will just get it by some other means, like having someone attend the class.

Remember, the attackers are not a few oddballs. The are members of a vast MAGA movement that has enough member to elect the present president and that encourages this sort of behavior. And they have tons of money behind them.

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14. solid_+AY[view] [source] [discussion] 2026-02-05 02:40:06
>>Eddy_V+vk
> Better to face those groups head on than hide.

Cool, if you feel that way then go face them. Don't force professors to stand in the firing line in your stead.

> Not sharing course outlines is not going to help make this problem better.

It would make finding targets more difficult than just doing a ctrl-f, which obviously would make the problem better just by making it harder to find professors to harass.

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15. theamk+961[view] [source] [discussion] 2026-02-05 03:47:02
>>coldte+mi
Everyone I know chose based on quality of education (for which syllabus is an important signal) and cost. This is various STEM-related fields.

The "exclusivity" and "networking considerations" stop mattering if you not looking into Ivy League.. and most people don't go there.

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16. eviks+Me1[view] [source] [discussion] 2026-02-05 05:22:25
>>belvie+aT
> will just get it by some other means, like having someone attend the class.

Not really, they don't have sufficient time budget and a network of agents to do that as comprehensively as with a simple "google search" some bureaucrat/activist can perform in a few minutes

> And they have tons of money behind them.

Sure, and each dollar has plenty competing uses

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17. eudamo+Q43[view] [source] [discussion] 2026-02-05 18:32:28
>>ebiest+Mf
I've heard for years that this sort of cancel culture doesn't exist or isn't a problem, and it's just the consequences of engaging in unpopular speech. Xkcd "showing you the door" and all that.
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