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1. ben_w+(OP)[view] [source] 2026-02-04 11:48:55
> cancelled

*googles* Mid Jan this year? Yes, I was focusing on my German language course for the entire month. Only online here to relax.

> It wasnt close to fsd.

Except it was. Failure modes make Tesla's FSD a level-2 system, not even level 3: https://abc7news.com/post/mercedes-beat-tesla-become-1st-off...

Almost all businesses are more cautious than Musk, that doesn't tell you the systems are actually lower performance. The certification shows where they're at after all the smoke and mirrors, and where Tesla's at just isn't very impressive these days.

This difference isn't just a Euro/US split, most US companies are also more cautious, so same goes for Waymo who have been maintaining their slow-and-cautious approach despite what Musk keeps promising with Tesla, and operate actual robo-taxies in more cities than Tesla does.

> Ask your local llm for the earnings of a $.20/.30 per mile autonomous vehicle

I mean, I can do that in my head because 100,000 miles/year is a lot of driving even at motorway speed, and 1e5 times any cost per mile is trivial mental arithmetic, and even at 30¢/mile it still doesn't get you $50k/year/car.

30,000 miles/year is more likely, given constraints about when people most need vehicles and the relative fraction of time spent on motorways vs. urban areas, at which point 30¢/mile gets you more like $9k/year.

Also, crucially, 30¢/mile is what Waymo are already claiming as its operating cost. The reason this matters is that the moment anyone has competition on this (e.g. should Tesla actually do what they've been promising is 6-18 months away for the last decade), they don't corner the market and don't get to charge that much just because it's cheaper than a human Uber driver, they're facing off against other robo-taxi people with the same advantages who are, today, already operating in more places than Tesla are and without as much political stigma. Basically, when you get two competitors like this, it looks like the market for software and prices tend to costs; everyone in transport then only makes a profit when the demand exceeds supply, like this Monday in Berlin when my partner had to spend half as much on one single taxi ride as a monthly Deutschlandticket because of a strike action, but this kind of thing does not a business plan make.

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2. iknows+nV2[view] [source] 2026-02-05 05:18:23
>>ben_w+(OP)
Except it was vaporware you could not purchase lmao. The actual smoke and mirrors that you fell for. There only cert is self certification.
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