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1. amluto+(OP)[view] [source] 2026-02-03 20:30:45
> > Oh wait, that didn’t actually happen

> Not sure how you can say that.

Because Elon canceled the Model 2.

> unscalable techniques like LIDAR

What, exactly, is unscalable about LiDAR? BYD appears to be planning to include LiDAR (one unit, presumably forward facing) in even their cheapest cars effective quite soon, and they seem to have a few tens of thousands of LiDAR units already on the road.

And Waymo’s solution is expensive but seems to scale fine.

Meanwhile, there is certainly nothing inherently that prevents scaling a pure-vision approach that relies on massive in-car computation, but Tesla wants to use their AI5 chips and they seem to be struggling to produce and scale them. (They also apparently want to launch them into space, but it’s not really clear that they exist.)

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2. mike_h+XE1[view] [source] 2026-02-04 08:47:32
>>amluto+(OP)
They have to map every road ahead of time and keep their maps up to date. That's been true for the entire time Waymo's tech has existed. Tesla is trying to solve FSD without laser maps, which is a harder problem but can scale up much faster.
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