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The game changed when Trump threatened the use of military force to seize Greenland.

At this point a nuclear power like France has no issue with using covert violence to produce compliance from Musk and he must know it.

These people have proven themselves to be existential threats to French security and France will do whatever they feel is necessary to neutralize that threat.

Musk is free to ignore French rule of law if he wants to risk being involved in an airplane accident that will have rumours and conspiracies swirling around it long after he’s dead and his body is strewn all over the ocean somewhere.

>>Teever+(OP)
You're implying that France is going to become a terrorist state? Because suspicious accidents do not sound like rule of law.

>>ronsor+k5
Become? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sinking_of_the_Rainbow_Warrior

The second Donald Trump threatened to invade a nation allied with France is the second anyone who works with Trump became a legitimate military target.

Like a cruel child dismembering a spider one limb at a time France and other nations around the world will meticulously destroy whatever resources people like Musk have and the influence it gives him over their countries.

If Musk displays a sufficient level of resistance to these actions the French will simply assassinate him.

>>ronsor+k5
Killing foreigners outside of the own country has always been deemed acceptable by governments that are (or were until recently) considered to generally follow rule of law as well as the majority of their citizen. It also doesn't necessarily contradicts rule of law.

It's just that the West has avoided to do that to each other because they were all essentially allied until recently and because the political implications were deemed too severe.

I don't think however France has anything to win by doing it or has any interest whatsoever and I doubt there's a legal framework the French government can or want to exploit to conduct something like that legally (like calling something an emergency situation or a terrorist group, for example).

>>ronsor+k5
> You're implying that France is going to become a terrorist state? Because suspicious accidents do not sound like rule of law.

Why not? After all, that's in vogue today. Trump is ignoring all the international agreements and rules, so why should others follow them?

>>ronsor+k5
Counter-point. France has already kidnapped another social media CEO and forced him to give up the encryption keys. The moral difference between France (historically or currently) and a 3rd wold warlord is very thin. Also, look at the accusations. CP and political extremism are the classic go-tos when a government doesn't really have a reason to put pressure on someone but they really want to anyway. France has a very questionable history of honoring rule of law in politics. Putting political enemies in prison on questionable charges has a long history there.

>>Teever+g8
You got that backwards. Greenpeace for all its faults is still viewed as a group against which military force is a no-no. Sinking that ship cost France far more than anything they inflicted on Greenpeace. If anything, that event is evidence that going after Musk is a terrible idea.

PS Yes, Greenpeace is a bunch of scientifically-illiterate fools who have caused far more damage than they prevented. Doesn't matter because what France did was still clearly against the law.

>>hunter+Qe
We are also talking about a country who wants to ban anonymous VPNs in the name of protecting the children and ask everyone to give their ID card to register account on Instagram, TikTok, etc.

OpenDNS is censored in France... so imagine

>>ronsor+k5
No difference in a strike like that and the strikes against fishing boats near Venezuela trump has ordered

>>ronsor+k5
People were surprised when the US started just droning boats in the Caribbean and wiping out survivors, but then the government explained that it was law enforcement and not terrorism or piracy, so everyone stopped worrying about it.

Seriously, every powerful state engages in state terrorism from time to time because they can, and the embarrassment of discovery is weighed against the benefit of eliminating a problem. France is no exception : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sinking_of_the_Rainbow_Warrior

>>hunter+Qe
"I can't see any difference between a country that has busted two companies that were known for hosting child porn, and a random cartel kingpin" isn't the flex you think it is