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The most insane thing about this is that it is not illegal to manufacture firearms in the United States. Providing that you do not sell or distribute the firearm, it is entirely legal to manufacture a firearm in the USA for personal use only. Laws vary state by state, of course, and it may be different in the state of New York, but assuming that this federal law has not been overridden by some state law in New York, then this proposed regulation is 100% nonsensical.

>>hazmaz+(OP)
it’s illegal to make a gun for personal use without a serial number in ny and ca.

https://oag.ca.gov/system/files/attachments/press-docs/consu...

>>kart23+di1
NY and CA have the most strict gun regulations

>>kart23+di1
So it's okay to 3D print a gun as long as you have a serial number? That seems to reinforce that 3D printing shouldn't be banned, especially by blanket technical means.

>>ground+5j1
NJ and CA. You can't make guns at all in NJ, and you need a firearm permit to buy an airgun or bb gun.

>>kart23+di1
theres a procedural problem with this, and its apparently why the feds dont require serial number on a PMF until FFL transfer is about to occur

when should you be required to serialize it?

if you serialize after it is worked to the point of being a firearm, then there is a period in time, however short, when the firearm is unserialized, thus illegal, thus serializing after creation could be obscuring a crime.

vs serializing before firearmhood, and you are now requireing a "hunk of metal" to be serialized because of what it MAY become in the future.

and just when does a hunk of metal start becoming a firearm, the so called 80% threshold

>>rolph+nS1
Not really. You can just register prior. If hunk of metal doesn't become a gun do nothing.

>>RevEng+VM1
That is the essence of the weird gun laws. Take a Glock pistol as an example. The only part that has a serial number and is legally “the gun” is the thing you hold in your hand: the frame. It’s plastic and has the trigger and some parts to hold the magazine.

The rest of the stuff? You can buy and overnight ship it to yourself legally with almost no regulation (as of 2026 CA requires more gun-like treatment for those parts).

>>y-curi+Lw2
I just grabbed my glock to check. The frame, slide and barrel are all have serial markings and it's about 15 years old at this point.

>>hahaha+W82
you have made it quite clear that you have no understanding of the issues.

>>ground+5j1
Combined they are home to 1 in 6 Americans so it's important info that applies to a lot of us.