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1. stopbu+(OP)[view] [source] 2026-02-03 17:55:01
Are those US software firms still obligated to comply with EU restrictions and legal demands if they are banned/barred/fascisticly_denied_the_option_to_compete by one or more EU territories?
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2. stopbu+w1[view] [source] 2026-02-03 18:00:57
>>stopbu+(OP)
Isn't it reasonable to block access to countries that deny you the option to compete and copy your business?

Then you'll need to pay for a VPN.

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3. stopbu+f6[view] [source] [discussion] 2026-02-03 18:18:25
>>stopbu+w1
Should US businesses block all connections from countries which deny them the option to compete?

Does it matter whether a competitor in such a country is copying their business while they are denied the option to compete?

4. pessim+9C[view] [source] 2026-02-03 20:29:20
>>stopbu+(OP)
Just like Europeans, you need to understand international law. It's not law like law within a country. It's a warning. US software firms were never obligated to comply with anything. If you don't comply, you create an enemy. You comply based on your judgement of that enemies' ability, determination and level of creativity that they will use to punish you for noncompliance.

Do you want to do any business at all there? Do you have any vendors there? Do your owners own anything else that does business there? Do you have any investors that live there? Do your kids go to college there? Do you have to fly over or through it, ever?

It's leverage against leverage.

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5. tensor+A02[view] [source] 2026-02-04 06:24:05
>>stopbu+(OP)
You are being denied the ability to sell to the French government, not denied selling into the market. Just like no one has "rights" to sell to the US government, you don't have any "right" to sell to any foreign government if they choose not to deal with you. And frankly it should be a matter of national security for governments to control the source and deployment of the software they use.
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6. stopbu+Na4[view] [source] [discussion] 2026-02-04 19:33:48
>>tensor+A02
I am not being denied. They are being excluded from consideration for contracts there.

Fascist isn't fair. I shouldn't have said that. Fascism is when the government controls but does not actually own any or enough shares to control the means of production.

What a shame though. Should US exclude foreign firms (France,) from consideration for contracts for the same reason?

No doubt the tariff master has made this all better with cruel tit-for-tat leverage that caused loss for these US firms.

(EU just canceled aspects of GDPR etc, so it's not new privacy law?)

(Edit: Kushner is currently ambassador to France. Why wouldn't they trust US-based communication firms over there all of a sudden?)

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7. stopbu+Rb4[view] [source] [discussion] 2026-02-04 19:38:04
>>pessim+9C
Is you don't comply, they block your ranges and legal recommends that you block customers connecting from those IP range.

(They're perfectly free to choose a different vendor on this their need for chat productivity and video.)

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