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1. tastyf+(OP)[view] [source] 2026-02-03 17:11:01
A normal country? Like Iran that just slaughters or imprisons anybody that speaks or acts against the government. 2A is to stop that situation from ever happening. Is the government starts shooting we will shoot back. Before then we would prefer to resolve our grievances peacefully in court.
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2. dangus+j4[view] [source] 2026-02-03 17:29:38
>>tastyf+(OP)
Most countries aren’t Iran. Are the French unable to protest without the 2nd amendment?

Did the 2nd amendment save Mark Pretti from that exact situation happening to him?

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3. tastyf+Ic[view] [source] [discussion] 2026-02-03 18:00:52
>>dangus+j4
No, most countries are not like Iran. There are enough examples of governments deciding to slaughter unarmed people within their boarders that the majority in the US sees giving up private guns as a folly of the greatest order.

If a populace gives up their weapons they become ultimately powerless against armed aggressors. 2A first purpose is to make citizens the first line of defense against invasion. This is supposed to be in place of a standing army from a time that a town could be wiped off the map by invading forces before any military force could be dispatched.

Yes, a permanent standing army is unconstitutional (Article 1 Section 8).

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4. sidewn+hm1[view] [source] [discussion] 2026-02-03 23:35:08
>>dangus+j4
You might want to read up on French history if you think they are not capable of bloodshed.
5. ActorN+X72[view] [source] 2026-02-04 05:51:14
>>tastyf+(OP)
>. 2A is to stop that situation from ever happening. Is the government starts shooting we will shoot back

The fact that ICE are still parading around on the street has put in a nail in the coffin that 2A is absolutely pointless.

If anything, USA citizens deserve to have their guns taken away forcibly just because they could use them but didn't.

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6. int_19+we2[view] [source] [discussion] 2026-02-04 06:48:17
>>ActorN+X72
The problem is that the people with guns also happen to be, by and large, the people who very much support what ICE is doing. Whereas those who oppose it have enthusiastically disarmed themselves.
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7. ActorN+fH3[view] [source] [discussion] 2026-02-04 16:37:22
>>int_19+we2
Even more reason to take away guns from people.
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8. int_19+g46[view] [source] [discussion] 2026-02-05 08:20:31
>>ActorN+fH3
Who is going to be doing that? The cops and other LEOs? Why would they take guns from their friends and neighbors on behalf of some liberal whom they hate?
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