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1. kortil+(OP)[view] [source] 2026-02-02 22:52:10
Being too big to fail is not really a desirable outcome, it’s just better than failure.

Boeing is too important to fail as well but it’s been terrible as a shareholder

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2. Jumpin+Y6[view] [source] 2026-02-02 23:20:04
>>kortil+(OP)
> > Boeing is too important to fail as well but it’s been terrible as a shareholder

Your opinion on Boeing being terrible as a shareholder vis-a-vis Tesla would be completely reversed if dividends and capital gains of the 2 companies were to be offered in the form of miles to be flown on Boeing planes and miles on Teslas Uber/Taxi/Autonomous taxis instead of dollars

The absolute overperformance on the stock market that Tesla has enjoyed vis-a-vis Boeing is not rooted in a concrete and tangible quality of life improvement for citizens. Not American citizens, nor global citizens for that matter.

It is my opinion that for all public companies in which it is possible to do so government should mandate payment in kind to all shareholders and board members to prevent the excessive promotional , cult and all around BS aspect of marketing to take over and allow people to profit just by riding off those, and Musk is the GOAT at that.

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3. kortil+3L[view] [source] [discussion] 2026-02-03 03:37:49
>>Jumpin+Y6
Im not comparing it to Tesla, im comparing it to any normal successful company (apple, google, nvidia, Exxon, whatever).

Boeing is an anemic company that doesn’t innovate and it should have been allowed to bankrupt and break off into businesses that worked and actually competed for customers.

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4. Jumpin+wb2[view] [source] [discussion] 2026-02-03 14:48:06
>>kortil+3L
> > Boeing is an anemic company that doesn’t innovate

The public is very afraid of innovation in anything aviation related, same goes for nuclear reactors.

If you are in those businesses you have your hands tied behind your back.

Still you'd buy the stock if the only way to get miles aboard Boeing planes were to own the stock and get paid dividends and capital gains in the form of miles.

This underscore how essential and vital Boeing is to the world whereas if you disappeared Tesla nothing would really happen

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5. herman+VS2[view] [source] [discussion] 2026-02-03 17:46:48
>>Jumpin+wb2
If Boeing would disappear nothing would happen too.

Airbus exists

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6. Jumpin+e43[view] [source] [discussion] 2026-02-03 18:28:31
>>herman+VS2
Oh the aviation world would not totally fall into wild chaos in case you disappeared Boeing overnight....no absolutely uh uh , nope , everything would be fine.

And besides...how does Airbus innovate?

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7. herman+BL3[view] [source] [discussion] 2026-02-03 21:42:12
>>Jumpin+e43
By complying with safety standards and not always begging for "Temporary Safety Exceptions" because they don't want to bring their totally outdated 737 design up to code?
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