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As an isolated event, this is not great, but when you see the stagnation (if not downwards trajectory) of GitHub as a whole, it‘s even worse in my opinion.

edit: Before someone says something. I do understand that the underlying issue is some issue with Azure.

>>fbnszb+(OP)
Sadly Github moving more into Azure will expose the fragility of the cloud platform as a whole. We've been working around these rough edges for years. Maybe it will make someone wake up, but I don't think they have any motivation to.

>>fbnszb+(OP)
> Azure

Which is again even worse.

>>fbnszb+(OP)
It really doesn't even matter why it failed. Shifting blame on Azure doesn't change the fact that GitHub is becoming more and more unreliable.

I don't get how Microsoft views this level of service as acceptable.

>>estima+mt
Doesn't seem like Microsoft managers care - it's not their core business, so any time anyone complains about issues with GitHub they probably think something along the line of "peasants whining again".

Must be nice to be a monopoly that has most of the businesses in the world as their hostages.

>>Ronsen+fM
At one point Gitlab seemed like it wanted to compete, but then they killed all the personal and SMB plans, and now they’re just out of the picture for a lot of people. Their team plan is more expensive that GH’s enterprise plan.

>>Aeolun+j11
IPO and quarterly demand for profit.

Gitlab was generous first, to rise as a valid alternative to GitHub. They never got the comminity aspect right, perhaps aiming for profitability with a focus on the runners instances which is how they make money.

With profitability, the IPO made sense.

GitHub probably had a different strategy..keep it generous, get the entire open source community, keep raising money and one day someone will buys us out for billions. We we are, Microsoft goal is to capture the community, it works. It's sticky.

>>Ronsen+fM
Yes, but this also means that countless open-source projects are in what appears to be a precarious position. What if MS one day decides all this free hosting isn't worth it, and just cuts it off? There aren't really any alternatives I know of, except bad ol' Sourceforge I guess.

>>fbnszb+(OP)
I really like codeberg if your project is licensed in an Open license.

One of the reasons I still use github is that I have starred quite a lot of projects and had to make an account initially to star a project. (I used to have bookmarks beforehand but I wanted to support author in a minor way :] and also github being de-facto & I wanted to talk to some projects which had issues which I wanted to create/discuss)

Another minor point is that Github actions are more generous than Codeberg's actions equivalent.

I believe hosting own Codeberg ie. Forejo (which is a gitea fork)/ gitea is actually easy. I once hosted them on my android phone using termux and on servers. Really liked the idea of having essentially github at my pockets.

For Gists [which is something that I like using a lot personally]. I found the idea of opengists really interesting as well. one minor complaint with opengists is that I love the comment part of gists which is an open issue in opengists but its not implemented yet. Wish it could be implemented.

Regarding losing bookmarks, I actually have a custom tampermonkey script in a private gist which shows a star button which essentially moves my bookmarks to some gist in a json format so as to not lose them ever again essentially.

>>hirako+6j1
Codeberg is a nonprofit community project aiming to replicate that. You can use it today.

>>Imusta+vJ1
Personally, I run my own Forgejo instance for the private repos I actually care about. But it's basically impossible to not have a GitHub account right now. I use "Refined GitHub" to make the UI somewhat usable.

>>direwo+QY1
I've used it, it's great, more like what GitHub was meant to be.

There is Forgejo. I find it more stable, I self host that. It never suffered an outage in 2 years that I had it running and is faster than GitHub.

>>hirako+gk4
Codeberg is a public instance of the Forgejo software, which you can also host yourself.