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- looks like OpenAIs answer to Claude Code Desktop / Cowork

- workspace agent runner apps (like Conductor) get more and more obsolete

- "vibe working" is becoming a thing - people use folder based agents to do their work (not just coding)

- new workflows seem to be evolving into folder based workspaces, where agents can self-configure MCP servers and skills + memory files and instructions

kinda interested to see if openai has the ideas & shipping power to compete with anthropic going forward; anthropic does not only have an edge over openai because of how op their models are at coding, but also because they innovate on workflows and ai tooling standards; openai so far has only followed in adoption (mcp, skills, now codex desktop) but rarely pushed the SOTA themselves.

>>surrTu+(OP)
Also interesting that they are both only for macOS. I’m feeling a bit left out on the Windows and Linux side, but this seems like an ongoing trend.

>>OkGoDo+r8
my guess is that openai/anthropic employees work on macOS and mostly vibe code these new applications (be it Atlas browser or now Codex Desktop); i wouldn't be surprised if Codex Desktop was built in a month or less;

linux / windows requires extra testing as well as some adjustments to the software stack (e.g. liquid glass only works on mac); to get the thing out the door ASAP, they release macos first.

>>OkGoDo+r8
We did train Codex models natively on Windows - https://openai.com/index/introducing-gpt-5-2-codex/ (and even 5.1-codex-max)

>>OkGoDo+r8
A lot of companies that use Windows are likely to use Microsoft Office products, and they were all basically forced to sign a non-compete where they can't run other models- just copilot.

>>OkGoDo+r8
I'm so sick and tired of the macOS elitism in the AI/LLM world.

>>abshkb+Fr
I appreciate this (as a Windows user) but I'm also curious how necessary this was.

Like I notice in Codex in PhpStorm it uses Get-Whatever style PowerShell commands but firstly, I have a perfectly working Git-Bash installed that's like 98% compatible with Linux and Mac. Could it not use that instead of being retrained on Windows-centric commands?

But better yet, probably 95% of the commands it actually needs to run are like cat and ripgrep. Can't you just bundle the top 20 commands, make them OS-agnostic and train on that?

The last tiny bit of the puzzle I would think is the stuff that actually is OS-specific, but I don't know what that would be. Maybe some differences in file systems, sandboxing, networking.

>>RazerW+2O
It's just realism.

MacOS is unix under the hood so the models can just use bash and cli tools easily instead of dealing with WSL or Powershell.

MacOS has built-in sandboxing at a better level than Windows (afaik the Codex App is delayed for Windows due to sandboxing complexities)

Also the vast majority of devs use MacBooks unless they work for Microsoft or are in a company where the vast majority of employees are locked to Windows for some reason (usually software related).

>>theshr+uK2
> Also the vast majority of devs use MacBooks unless

It takes 15 seconds to verify this isn't even true in webdev, less so everything else.