federal stalking charges have stuck so now life in prison is on the table.
https://apnews.com/article/mangione-unitedhealthcare-death-p...
The judge ruled the backpack evidence can be used.
If you actually believe this you can more than 10x your money [1].
[1] https://polymarket.com/event/luigi-mangione-out-of-custody-b...
It's all political at this point.
I'm not sure why so many people believe that what - jury nullification? - is going to happen.
If they did it in a federal court? Probably. If they did it in the state court? Probably not. New York doesn’t have the death penalty.
How confident are you there isn’t at least one juror who hasn’t been harmed by their health insurance, financially or medically? Only takes one.
Pardons. If he's pardoned there is a good chance he'll kill again. (And inspire copycats.)
We need to eliminate pardons across our system of justice. Between Biden pardoning his son and Trump pardoning the J6'ers, there should be a bipartisan case for closing this.
Who doesn't perjor themselves during voir dire, thereby triggering a mistrial? Pretty confident. Maybe he gets lucky in federal court because Bondi is an idiot. But the state charges are solid, and New York isn't Reddit.
Eh, if I thought Mangione was justified or effective it would be an easy way to feel good for a while with zero real-world consequences apart from my moral integrity. (Which, to be clear, is mine and mine alone. I have friends–good people whom I love and respect–who would nullify Mangione. They're just never getting seated on his jury without perjuring themselves.)
Why would he be pardoned by the governor at all? Why do you believe Hunter Biden being pardoned is on the same level as J6 being pardoned, when the reasoning (accurately) was to protect him from a perversion of the law in turn?
Your entire argument is essentially “kill them before they can prove they’re not still a threat”.
just randomly appoint people, and stop pretending what we’re doing is working.
Eliminating pardon power doesn’t neuter the Presidency or Governorships. The Romans didn’t even automatically grant the power to dictators.
Not arguing for the pardon power - just demanding better leadership.
Laws are just loose rules we sometimes collectively adhere to, people are mostly emotion driven. Sometimes the law matters, but sometimes not.
I’ll take it! If he’s found not guilty on all counts in his state and federal trials, I owe you.
> people are mostly emotion driven
Sure. A prosecutor’s (and judge’s) job is to remove these people from a jury pool.
Not to speak for JumpCrisscross, but IMO this could be construed not as "Hunter Biden being pardoned is on the same level as J6 being pardoned" but rather "Republicans will support the end of presidential pardoning because of Hunter Biden being pardoned, while Democrats will support the end of presidential pardoning because of J6 being pardoned".