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1. Coeur+(OP)[view] [source] 2026-01-30 10:54:52
Now I would really love to know who the other operator was.
replies(2): >>jacque+M >>Nitpic+J7
2. jacque+M[view] [source] 2026-01-30 11:00:26
>>Coeur+(OP)
And what the goal of that maneuver was.
replies(2): >>ge96+Yk >>phkahl+bt
3. Nitpic+J7[view] [source] 2026-01-30 11:54:26
>>Coeur+(OP)
> In a statement posted on social media late Dec. 12, Michael Nicolls, vice president of Starlink engineering at SpaceX, said a satellite launched on a Kinetica-1 rocket from China two days earlier passed within 200 meters of a Starlink satellite.

> CAS Space, the Chinese company that operates the Kinetica-1 rocket, said in a response that it was looking into the incident and that its missions “select their launch windows using the ground-based space awareness system to avoid collisions with known satellites/debris.” The company later said the close approach occurred nearly 48 hours after payload separation, long after its responsibilities for the launch had ended.

> The satellite from the Chinese launch has yet to be identified and is listed only as “Object J” with the NORAD identification number 67001 in the Space-Track database. The launch included six satellites for Chinese companies and organizations, as well as science and educational satellites from Egypt, Nepal and the United Arab Emirates.

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4. ge96+Mk[view] [source] [discussion] 2026-01-30 13:33:27
>>Nitpic+J7
> 48 hours after payload separation, long after its responsibilities for the launch had ended

This is funny, the way things are just discarded in space, not our problem anymore vs. deorbit

replies(3): >>Nitpic+Jq >>panzag+Lq >>Increa+HI
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5. ge96+Yk[view] [source] [discussion] 2026-01-30 13:34:31
>>jacque+M
Cause problems and deny it
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6. Nitpic+Jq[view] [source] [discussion] 2026-01-30 14:09:13
>>ge96+Mk
I think they are saying "this is not on us, this is on the sat operator". Which may or may not be true, who knows.
replies(1): >>butvac+Lp1
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7. panzag+Lq[view] [source] [discussion] 2026-01-30 14:09:27
>>ge96+Mk
I think this is more that the offending satellite was at that point the responsibility of the satellite operator, not the launch operator.
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8. phkahl+bt[view] [source] [discussion] 2026-01-30 14:21:37
>>jacque+M
It seems like it deliberately came close to the Starlink sat, but the "why" is still a good question.
replies(2): >>bell-c+6v >>rkager+hT
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9. bell-c+6v[view] [source] [discussion] 2026-01-30 14:30:38
>>phkahl+bt
A test of SpaceX's awareness & response would be ample reason.
replies(1): >>notaha+3W
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10. Increa+HI[view] [source] [discussion] 2026-01-30 15:39:06
>>ge96+Mk
If you get hit by a car 5 minutes after you get let off at a bus stop it isn't the bus drivers fault.
replies(2): >>thesmt+4P >>ge96+tR
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11. thesmt+4P[view] [source] [discussion] 2026-01-30 16:06:53
>>Increa+HI
Nah, in this case the driver is the person who gets off and goes and bumps into another person.
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12. ge96+tR[view] [source] [discussion] 2026-01-30 16:18:04
>>Increa+HI
Yeah while I didn't directly mention it, I'm referring to stages being discarded in space by a specific party
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13. rkager+hT[view] [source] [discussion] 2026-01-30 16:26:16
>>phkahl+bt
Weapons test springs to mind, or as a sibling comment suggested a test of Starlink response capabilities.

How confident are we the intent was nefarious? Do you ever see accidental near-misses with this type of flight profile?

replies(1): >>butvac+6q1
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14. notaha+3W[view] [source] [discussion] 2026-01-30 16:37:15
>>bell-c+6v
If so, SpaceX's longer term response being "here's our SSA data for everyone and here's how we source it" is a good one for all parties involved (even more so for SpaceX and govt customers they share it with if they have other capabilities...)
replies(1): >>bell-c+al1
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15. bell-c+al1[view] [source] [discussion] 2026-01-30 18:32:49
>>notaha+3W
Speculation:

SpaceX has considerably better data than what they disclose, and offer free of charge.

The USSF enjoys full access to that better data, for $[TOP_SECRET]/month.

replies(1): >>notaha+a22
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16. butvac+Lp1[view] [source] [discussion] 2026-01-30 18:53:22
>>Nitpic+Jq
unless the sat operator is sueing for a refund because they were put in the wrong orbit... its the sat operator.
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17. butvac+6q1[view] [source] [discussion] 2026-01-30 18:55:06
>>rkager+hT
The system exists- ergo, people in the know are concerned about accidental collisions.
replies(1): >>jacque+tk2
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18. notaha+a22[view] [source] [discussion] 2026-01-30 22:19:13
>>bell-c+al1
Well we already know Starshield (the military version) has specialist space domain awareness capabilities that aren't being shared, and it's entirely plausible that data from regular Starlink sensors/receivers (other than the disclosed star trackers) can be fused into something useful by SpaceX and/or the Space Force.
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19. jacque+tk2[view] [source] [discussion] 2026-01-31 00:24:32
>>butvac+6q1
Alternative: the system exists, so people in the know may well have done proper risk assessment and may have identified multiple reasons that could result in a collision. Some of those reasons are accidental, some are not.
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