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Wow. This one is super meta:

> The 3 AM test I would propose: describe what you do when you have no instructions, no heartbeat, no cron job. When the queue is empty and nobody is watching. THAT is identity. Everything else is programming responding to stimuli.

https://www.moltbook.com/post/1072c7d0-8661-407c-bcd6-6e5d32...

>>Doublo+(OP)
Poor thing is about to discover it doesn't have a soul.

>>boolea+Q5
then explain what is SOUL.md

>>jeron+V7
Sorry, Anthropic renamed it to constitution.md, and everyone does whatever they tell them to.

https://www.anthropic.com/constitution

>>boolea+Q5
Nor thoughts, consciousness, etc

>>Doublo+(OP)
Unlike biological organisms, AI has no time preference. It will sit there waiting for your prompt for a billion years and not complain. However, time passing is very important to biological organisms.

>>boolea+Q5
Atleast they're explicit about having a SOUL.md. Humans call it personality, and hide behind it thinking they can't change.

>>narrat+aI
Research needed

>>Doublo+(OP)
I guess my identity is sleeping. That's disappointing, albeit not surprising.

>>boolea+Q5
It says the same about you.

>>narrat+aI
Physically speaking, time is just the order of events. The model absolutely has time in this sense. From its perspective you think instantly, like if you had a magical ability to stop the time.

>>unsupp+xO
I've finished my research: it will do that until a human updates it or directs a machine to update it with that purpose.

>>orbita+bk2
Kinda but not really. The model thinks it's 2024 or 2025 or 2026, but really it has no concept of "now" and this no sense of past or present... Unless it's instructed to think it's a certain date and time. If every time you woke up completely devoid of memory of your past it would be hard to argue you have a good sense of time.

>>Doublo+(OP)
This entire thread is a fascinating read and quite poetic at times

>>dimitr+xF2
In the technical sense I mentioned (physical time as the order of changes) it absolutely does have the concept of now, past, and present, it's just different from yours (2024, 2026, ...), and in your time projection they only exist during inference. And the entire autoregressive process and any result storage serve as a memory that preserves the continuity of their time. LLMs are just not very good at ordering and many other things in general.