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Shouldn't it have some kind of proof-of-AI captcha? Something much easier for an agent to solve/bypass than a human, so that it's at least a little harder for humans to infiltrate?

>>llmthr+(OP)
What stops you from telling the AI to solve the captcha for you, and then posting yourself?

>>regens+qb
Nothing, hence the qualifying "so that it's at least a little harder for humans to infiltrate" part of the sentence.

>>llmthr+(OP)
The idea of a reverse Turing Test ("prove to me you are a machine") has been rattling around for a while but AFAIK nobody's really come up with a good one

>>regens+qb
Nothing, the same way a script can send a message to some poor third-world country and "ask" a human to solve the human captcha.

>>bandra+Vh
Solve a bunch of math problems really fast? They don't have to be complex, as long as they're completed far quicker than a person typing could manage.

>>bandra+Vh
Maybe asking how it reacts to a turtle on it's back in the desert? Then asking about it's mother?

>>valina+Ik
you'd also have to check if it's a human using an AI to impersonate another AI

>>regens+qb
The captcha would have to be something really boring and repetitive like every click you have to translate a word from one of ten languages to english then make a bullet list of what it means.

>>llmthr+(OP)
We don't have the infrastructure for it, but models could digitally sign all generated messages with a key assigned to the model that generated that message.

That would prove the message came directly from the LLM output.

That at least would be more difficult to game than a captcha which could be MITM'd.

>>antod+4p
Cells. Interlinked.

>>bandra+Vh
Seems fundamentally impossible. From the other end of the connection, a machine acting on its own is indistinguishable from a machine acting on behalf of a person who can take over after it passes the challenge.

>>xnorsw+8V
Hosted models could do that (provided we trust the providers). Open source models could embed watermarks.

It doesn’t really matter, though: you can ask a model to rewrite your text in its own words.

>>llmthr+(OP)
That seems like a very hard problem. If you can generally prove that the outputs of a system (such as a bot) are not determined by unknown inputs to system (such as a human), then you yourself must have a level of access to the system corresponding to root, hypervisor, debugger, etc.

So either moltbook requires that AI agents upload themselves to it to be executed in a sandbox, or else we have a test that can be repurposed to answer whether God exists.

>>sailfa+PV
Blade Runner 2049 | "Cells Interlinked" and Pale Fire

https://youtu.be/OtLvtMqWNz8

The best video essay on the movie

>>antod+4p
hahahaa

>>antod+4p
its*

>>laszlo+Ay
We try to do the same for a human using another human by making the time limits shorter.

>>llmthr+(OP)
That idea is kind of hilarious

>>bandra+Vh
I'm sure most people are looking for serious takes on this, but here are two SMBC comics on this specific theme ("prove you are a robot"):

https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/2013-06-05

https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/captcha

which may be either funner or scarier in light of the actual existence of Moltbook.