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1. nickff+(OP)[view] [source] 2026-01-27 18:39:28
I'd suggest the Wikipedia article as a very good starting point: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Israel#Ancient_Isra...
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2. direwo+S2[view] [source] 2026-01-27 18:52:47
>>nickff+(OP)
Did they have states in 1209 BC? I'm pretty sure the modern Israel state is a modern invention, that just happens to take its name from former states. The modern state of Greece isn't the one from Jesus's time either.
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3. nickff+O6[view] [source] [discussion] 2026-01-27 19:09:15
>>direwo+S2
Well, if you're only going to count modern states, the only previous one to occupy that area was the Ottoman Empire. After that, there was a British Mandate, but that wasn't a state. Modern states only started after the Treaty of Westphalia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peace_of_Westphalia
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4. direwo+Pv[view] [source] [discussion] 2026-01-27 20:42:58
>>nickff+O6
Does the modern Israel state have continuity from the Ottoman empire?
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5. nickff+Vz[view] [source] [discussion] 2026-01-27 20:56:25
>>direwo+Pv
That really depends on what you mean by ‘continuity’ and your view of the British Mandate. I could imagine the case being made either way.
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6. direwo+gt2[view] [source] [discussion] 2026-01-28 11:08:43
>>nickff+Vz
I'll give you a hint: the successor to this part of the Ottoman Empire was named Palestine.
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7. joenot+Y13[view] [source] [discussion] 2026-01-28 14:39:38
>>direwo+Pv
Are these questions you're unable to answer yourself, or are you playing some kind of game?

I think you should just be honest about how you feel.

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