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1. jeswin+(OP)[view] [source] 2026-01-25 15:00:23
What explains the silence from activists outside Iran on this particular issue? I see relatively limited coverage on global media. Iranians seem to be fighting this alone, and dying by the thousands.

Perhaps we know, but the reasons will be unpopular.

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2. kelips+c1[view] [source] 2026-01-25 15:07:56
>>jeswin+(OP)
Probably the activists are hesitant because the US is rearing to start a war with Iran (that will certainly kill way more civilians) and they don’t want to contribute to that decision.
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3. 31337L+B1[view] [source] 2026-01-25 15:10:17
>>jeswin+(OP)
Religion and virtue signaling.
4. behnam+L1[view] [source] 2026-01-25 15:11:32
>>jeswin+(OP)
Because Persians are fighting islam (they're burning down mosques).

and the islamic regime was a sponsor of previous pro-palestine movements.

leftists don't find this an appealing mix. they'd rather blame Israel for everything, but here we see Iranians siding with the Israelis because they've seen what islam does to their country.

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5. Noaidi+D2[view] [source] 2026-01-25 15:15:12
>>jeswin+(OP)
People are not being told to be outraged about it via whatever social media platform.
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6. SonOfK+h3[view] [source] 2026-01-25 15:19:28
>>jeswin+(OP)
In America at least, we saw protests against some of the things Israel did in Gaza because the US government is supporting Israel. Since the US is not a supporter of Iran, and in fact has been strong adversary for decades, there is less reason to protest here. Plus, we’ve got some serious problems of our own that are keeping us occupied at the moment
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7. tovej+54[view] [source] 2026-01-25 15:23:59
>>jeswin+(OP)
There's no activism because everybody agrees it's terrible. If your govt is already cutting out Iran and sanctioning them, there's no need to demand action.

This is very different from Israel, where our govts are actively supporting a genocide. That requires activism to change course.

Why would people demonstrate if everyone is aligned?

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8. lingru+u4[view] [source] 2026-01-25 15:26:56
>>jeswin+(OP)
Nobody in the west actually cares about injustice. They just pretend to care when it's politically convenient.

Unfortunately, ABC and NBC haven't found a way to blame Trump for what's happening in Iran. Highlighting the atrocities perpetuated in the name of Islam is more likely to help Trump than hurt him, so this story must be minimized. It's just good, smart politics.

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9. luckyl+U5[view] [source] [discussion] 2026-01-25 15:34:52
>>SonOfK+h3
It's true that the recipient of the protest might be different, but that's no reason to be quiet.

China in Tibet, China's treatment of the Uyghurs, Russia's war against Ukraine, Kony 2012 etc, there are lots of causes where the local government in whichever country you look at isn't actively involved, yet there was a lot more public noise and campaigns.

I don't know what the answer is, but "my government doesn't deliver weapons to them" hasn't been a reason before, so I don't see why it would be now.

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10. behnam+m6[view] [source] [discussion] 2026-01-25 15:36:55
>>tovej+54
> If your govt is already cutting out Iran and sanctioning them, there's no need to demand action.

“Human beings are members of a whole

In creation of one essence and soul

If one member is afflicted with pain

Other members uneasy will remain

If you have no sympathy for human pain

The name of human you cannot retain”

—Saadi, Persian poet

11. orwin+f7[view] [source] 2026-01-25 15:42:08
>>jeswin+(OP)
Lack of shock images, and lack of personnel for humanitarian orgs. Protests and killings are happening outside of the locations MSF is implanted, and even if we have stories from doctors prevented from helping shot protesters, we don't have videos (and in the last few years and especially the last two weeks, doctors finally understood no one cared if they were prevented to help, since it was acceptable in France and even in the US).

The only NGO looking for Iran exclusively is Iran Human Right (https://iranhr.net/en/) and depend on the UNHRC, which is not particularly media trained and not good at reacting (also, they lost US funding less than a year ago and are reorganizing as we speak).

In the end, it will be like Yemen or Sudan all over again: media hear of the massacre late, send journalists, journalists get refused, they send journalists to neighboring countries and infiltrate with local guide help, some journalist dies, and three month after the beginning of the trouble we will get images and information.

12. newyan+y8[view] [source] 2026-01-25 15:50:30
>>jeswin+(OP)
Islam and Neoliberal wests are the strangest bedfellows. Thankfully people like Christopher Hitchens, Richard Dawkins and many others pointed the oddities long before many others made it us vs them political. Palestinian cause is used to drown any other legitimate concerns about ideology
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13. orwin+19[view] [source] [discussion] 2026-01-25 15:53:22
>>luckyl+U5
China in Tibet manifestation were mostly thanks to the Dalai Lama. Without a spiritual chief in exile, no one would have cared.

The Uighur is easy: Nike and a lots of western brand used Chinese work camps. In my neighborhood that's what people protested, not really Chinese treatment of their minority, but the fact our brands used slave labor. Nike and all no promised they wouldn't use slave again, the Uighur are still discriminated and forcefully sterilized, no one care anymore in the West.

Russia war against Ukraine is very different, it's the first war in Europe since the 90s, and the first "real" war in europe since 45 (I guarantee you if Ukraine folded in 3 days, no one would have said much). Also, Europe is financing the Russian war economy, which is easy to protest.

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14. lukesc+99[view] [source] [discussion] 2026-01-25 15:53:59
>>luckyl+U5
US government policy is completely aligned with the goal of stopping Iran from doing this, there is no reason to protest the US government on this issue.
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15. jryle7+o9[view] [source] [discussion] 2026-01-25 15:56:03
>>tovej+54
Protests were about US's inaction in Gaza as much as its support for Israel. Why no such protests now? Why aren't there thousands of people gathering demanding US doing something to help Iran's people?
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16. Calava+G9[view] [source] [discussion] 2026-01-25 15:57:23
>>behnam+L1
This is a straw man in my opinion. But regardless of that, your theory doesn't explain why conservative media isn't really covering this either - The Iran protests haven't exactly been front page material on Fox News or OAN or Breitbart
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17. eaurou+I9[view] [source] 2026-01-25 15:57:27
>>jeswin+(OP)
There's limited coverage of all global conflicts, certainly in American media, but quite likely in other Western media.

> What explains the silence from activists outside Iran on this particular issue?

What explains the silence from the media on all other conflicts. It's certainly not because lives are not being destroyed in Sudan [1] and Myanmar [2].

1. https://news.un.org/en/story/2026/01/1166738

2. https://news.un.org/en/story/2025/09/1166004

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18. seanmc+K9[view] [source] [discussion] 2026-01-25 15:58:01
>>orwin+19
Westerners treat Tibetans like pandas, which is why China has travel restrictions into Tibet proper for foreigners. Most westerners don’t know the Uighurs exist, and anyways they are Muslims. Accordingly, China doesn’t bother with travel restrictions into Xinjiang. The fact that they have any attention from westerners at all these days is kind of amazing.
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19. graeme+T9[view] [source] [discussion] 2026-01-25 15:59:06
>>behnam+L1
I very much doubt they are fighting Islam. Most of them are Muslims. They are fighting fundamentalist Islam. DO you have any evidence they are doing this or "siding with the Israelis"? The fundamentalist Islamist Saudi's seem to get on with Israel fine these days.

I think its simpler. There is no one white involved. What is unique about Israel is that most of its population is white so its an issue worth covering (for people backing either side). The same with Ukraine. On the other hand what happens in Eritrea or Sudan or Myanmar or Xinjiang does not matter.

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20. wahnfr+Ha[view] [source] [discussion] 2026-01-25 16:03:12
>>kelips+c1
US activists against IDF wanted US to stop arming and funding and enabling genocide directly. Many IDF soldiers are also from the US or go back and forth.

US isn’t arming or funding or enabling Iran directly, so calls for US action would mean call to war, which US leadership has already been signaling.

Maybe you think US should go to war. Regardless that’s the biggest difference.

There are also frankly many who are confused about Iran - sympathizing with Iran leadership as enemies of IDF and not understanding who they are and what they do. Lack of video going around doesn’t help.

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21. wahnfr+db[view] [source] [discussion] 2026-01-25 16:06:34
>>seanmc+K9
A lot of the continued attention is due to Adrian Zenz
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22. midlan+Sc[view] [source] [discussion] 2026-01-25 16:16:22
>>SonOfK+h3
But the protests weren’t limited to Ameica, there were protests all over the world, including in Muslim countries.

And the outrage wasn’t always directed at the government. We don’t see Iranian students in the US being attacked. We don’t see Iranian places of worship in the US being attacked. We don’t see as much outrage in the comments on HN - there were some event justifying it.

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23. throw3+gd[view] [source] [discussion] 2026-01-25 16:19:06
>>jryle7+o9
The US was not inactive in Gaza. It was actively supporting, funding and and arming a genocide. Currently the Trump administration is actively engaged in a process to clean up the Gaza strip, rebuild it with the money of other countries, and finally hand it over to Israel for free (for who do you think those nice skyscrapers would be built, for the Palestinians? Lol).
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24. behnam+9f[view] [source] [discussion] 2026-01-25 16:33:59
>>graeme+T9
I'm Persian. most Iranians are NOT muslim; that's what the islamic regime's propaganda has tried to convey for 47 years. if anything, many who were already muslim became atheists after seeing the atrocities of the regime in the past decades.

Iran's population is also overwhelmingly pro-West.

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25. behnam+of[view] [source] [discussion] 2026-01-25 16:35:10
>>Calava+G9
the conservative media is covering it. Prince Reza Pahlavi (the leader of the revolution) has appeared on Fox several times. Mark Levin, Rep. senators (Graham, etc.) constantly talk about how we should urgently help Iranians in their fight for freedom.
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26. mhb+mj[view] [source] [discussion] 2026-01-25 17:02:09
>>eaurou+I9
> There's limited coverage of all global conflicts

Not exactly. There's a singular exception which has received torrential "coverage".

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27. mhb+Zj[view] [source] [discussion] 2026-01-25 17:07:57
>>throw3+gd
> for who [sic] do you think those nice skyscrapers would be built, for the Palestinians? Lol)

Are you under the illusion that the Palestinians funded and built their previous infrastructure? Lol.

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28. Gordon+mm[view] [source] [discussion] 2026-01-25 17:21:34
>>behnam+9f
No, according to both Iranian government estimates and the US Department of State, around 99% of the population are Muslim.

[0] https://www.state.gov/reports/2022-report-on-international-r...

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29. Calava+lp[view] [source] [discussion] 2026-01-25 17:38:53
>>behnam+of
Reza Pahlavi has also had recent interviews with CBS [1], the Economist [2], and CNN [3] (all within the last 30 days). So how is the existence of Reza Pahlavi interviews on Fox evidence that conservative media is covering this issue more than liberal media?

On the topic of Politicians, Democratic congressmen like Dave Min and Jim Hines have also spoken in favor of US intervention in Iran.

[1] https://www.cbsnews.com/video/full-interview-exiled-iranian-...

[2] https://youtu.be/jk6wfvje8Zo

[3] https://www.cnn.com/2026/01/23/world/video/iran-united-state...

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30. behnam+Lq[view] [source] [discussion] 2026-01-25 17:46:45
>>Gordon+mm
Imagine lecturing an Iranian about Iran. smh
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31. throw3+qr[view] [source] [discussion] 2026-01-25 17:50:38
>>mhb+Zj
Are you under the illusion that your comment has any relevance, besides revealing your urge to vilify an entire people?
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32. tovej+mt[view] [source] [discussion] 2026-01-25 18:03:07
>>newyan+y8
Richard Dawkins is a weirdo crank these days who's co-authoring questionable books woth sex offenders about transgender issues. And the one thing Christopher Hitchens was most right about was Israel, he was an anti-zionist.

And the neoliberal west has more in common with Israel than Iran, I don't quite understand why you choose to write broad political comments if you don't have the basic background knowledge that would be needwd in this discussion.

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33. t-3+Et[view] [source] [discussion] 2026-01-25 18:05:27
>>Noaidi+D2
This article right here, and the countless that came before are telling people to be outraged. People aren't, partly because they don't know what to believe without really any reliable or unbiased reporting, partly because the Trump outrage machine has filled the news feeds with so much other stuff to be outraged about, and partly because the situation in the Middle East seems so futile and stupid that people don't want to care because nothing will change and no government with any say in the region will allow peace or democracy or self-determination to the people there.
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34. mhb+Nt[view] [source] [discussion] 2026-01-25 18:06:25
>>throw3+qr
Try and follow. The Palestinians weren't the ones who built their original infrastructure and it wasn't "hand[ed] ... over to Israel". Other than your antipathy towards Israel, what makes you think that whatever other countries pay to rebuild for the Palestinians will be handed over to Israel?
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35. t-3+Dw[view] [source] [discussion] 2026-01-25 18:23:06
>>midlan+Sc
Iranian-Americans are almost universally people who fled Iran during or after the revolution, they are almost all hostile to the current ruling regime. Why would anyone attack them over what Iran is doing? Even Jewish Americans haven't been attacked over what Israel is doing in Gaza, despite them having large numbers of dual-citizens and majority support for Israel.
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36. luckyl+Gw[view] [source] [discussion] 2026-01-25 18:23:31
>>lukesc+99
It's not always a protest against government, sometimes it a campaign of lobbying, sometimes it's international attention.

The US government wasn't a friend of Kony in 2012. Before Trump 2, the US were not that friendly with Russia, yet people protested in many places around the world to show support for Ukraine and to voice their opposition to Russia's imperialistic wars, being aligned with their governments' position.

It's different with Iran. Some of that is likely to be Iran's lower profile, but not all -- it's not like media outlets are not reporting on it at all and you have to get your information from niche sources to hear about events in Iran.

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37. _DeadF+hI[view] [source] [discussion] 2026-01-25 19:28:02
>>t-3+Dw
Multiple murders

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2025_Capital_Jewish_Museum_sho...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2025_Boulder_fire_attack

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Paul_Kessler

38. feb012+JV[view] [source] 2026-01-25 20:59:58
>>jeswin+(OP)
Pretty easy actually. The only leverage we have over Iran is military action, which I think historical precedent shows will lead to worse outcomes for everyone involved.

The way I see it, any support for Iranians will be co-opted to start a war with Iran, which will be a disaster.

This isn't the case for Israel / Gaza, which is what I assume you're alluding to when you talk about activism.

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39. newyan+Tn1[view] [source] [discussion] 2026-01-25 23:45:47
>>tovej+mt
It is not broad political comment. If you read the original text and sunnahs as well as follow the interpretations of a lot of scholars like Zakir Naik and others that are unapologetic the truth that is conveniently hidden in discussions easily comes out.

The entirety of the world does not run on Western neoliberal lens and every region has had its history and challenges and fights that due to cognitive limits during discussion are never given their legitimate space.

This can apply to grooming gangs in UK, the conditions of minorities in middle east (Yazidis or others)

An individual who might have an issue with a broad ideology that considers all non believers as subhuman to be converted, killed or brought into the said ideology by hook or crook can be motivated with their own experiences.

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40. TiredO+aA1[view] [source] 2026-01-26 01:29:16
>>jeswin+(OP)
Because for some strange reason majority of activist accounts stopped posting when Iran turned off internet
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41. tovej+S62[view] [source] [discussion] 2026-01-26 07:08:45
>>newyan+Tn1
Are you claiming all muslims believe non-muslims are subhumans? That's far-right rhetoric and simply untrue.
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42. tovej+k72[view] [source] [discussion] 2026-01-26 07:14:13
>>mhb+Nt
What's your point? Palestinians built the first Zionist settlements too. They were hired as workers before Labor-Zionism made ethnicity be a necessary condition for employment in the settlements, later in Israel.

Israel has already grabbed a huge amount of Gaza after the genocide and Trumps "peace". And in the west bank they have ramped up the annexation as well. Israel has been swallowing Palestine while driving away Palestinians for more than 75 years now.

An apartheid state is not going to give the second class ethnic group any concessions.

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43. throw3+Jv2[view] [source] [discussion] 2026-01-26 11:08:55
>>tovej+k72
His point is to insert in the conversation some disparaging remarks to paint Palestinians as parasites, pretending the occupation, oppression and blockade don't exist. Beyond this there is no consequence at all between his remarks and the point at hand, which is that the "peace" is a ploy to take the heat off Israel, free it from any obligation to pay reparations for the destruction it caused, and eventually hand over to it the Gaza strip.
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44. mhb+tx4[view] [source] [discussion] 2026-01-26 21:49:06
>>throw3+Jv2
Do tell how the fraction of the billions that were given to Gazans that weren't used to build tunnels to attack Israel were "hand[ed] over to Israel for free".
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45. tmnvix+Lf5[view] [source] 2026-01-27 02:29:56
>>jeswin+(OP)
Quite possibly because they don't want to become the US and Israel's useful idiots - contributing to calls for war that could easily lead to the deaths of millions if past experience is anything to go by.

If the US were serious about the well-being of Iranian people they'd stop trying to screw the economy and foment violent unrest, but of course that is not what they are interested in. They want war. They want regime change. They want balkanisation.

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46. throw3+il5[view] [source] [discussion] 2026-01-27 03:21:51
>>mhb+tx4
You know, Palestinians, as a people under a brutal alien occupation, have a right to attack Israel that is enshrined in international law.
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47. mhb+2X6[view] [source] [discussion] 2026-01-27 15:31:12
>>throw3+il5
Are you just shaking a Magic Eight Ball and replying with whatever non-responsive bullshit it comes up with? Open air prison, genocide, international law, occupation...
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