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1. 127+(OP)[view] [source] 2026-01-22 12:47:39
Mating is where humans are still closest to nature. Traffic has rules. Love has none.
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2. krapp+T[view] [source] 2026-01-22 12:52:26
>>127+(OP)
And men wonder why women choose the bear...
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3. direwo+W3[view] [source] [discussion] 2026-01-22 13:12:46
>>krapp+T
As a hypothetical. In reality, men and women wonder why men and women choose the sociopath.
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4. kibbul+f4[view] [source] [discussion] 2026-01-22 13:14:38
>>krapp+T
We're well aware that it's some combination of antagonistic attention-seeking and suicidal naivety.
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5. krapp+59[view] [source] [discussion] 2026-01-22 13:41:22
>>direwo+W3
In reality, you can predict a bear's behavior but you can never tell what a man will do to you given the chance. Maybe nothing. Maybe years of gaslighting, cruelty and violence because of mother issues. Maybe nothing and one day they just snap and shoot you and your entire family.

And it isn't simply a matter of sociopathy, but a model of masculine behavior and culture that trains men to view women as a currency and an entitlement, and doesn't allow them healthy emotional expression and identity separate from sexual and material conquests. A bear is just operating by instinct. Men choose their abusive behaviors and society often enables them.

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6. direwo+Iu[view] [source] [discussion] 2026-01-22 15:24:27
>>krapp+59
How do we know men and women don't just operate by instinct?

Bears are smart. They can't design bearproof trash cans for national parks because the smartest bears are smarter than the dumbest national park visitors.

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7. krapp+zO[view] [source] [discussion] 2026-01-22 16:44:31
>>direwo+Iu
>How do we know men and women don't just operate by instinct?

Because we define "instinct" in a way that separates the behavior of animals from humans and we have evidence from both personal experience and observing the behavior of other higher primates that humans are capable of operating beyond their instincts, for instance by creating social and political abstractions which optimize for things other than survival and procreation. The existence of art, language, science, philosophy and law cannot be reduced to purely instinctual drives.

This is a profoundly uninteresting and juvenile line of argument which inevitably reduces to solipsism.

>Bears are smart. They can't design bearproof trash cans for national parks because the smartest bears are smarter than the dumbest national park visitors.

Humans split the atom, sequenced genomes and went to the moon. We can't design bearproof trash cans because those trash cans have to be usable by humans, which creates fundamental engineering weaknesses that animals can exploit, not because bears are smarter than humans.

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8. direwo+B61[view] [source] [discussion] 2026-01-22 17:57:13
>>krapp+zO
Humans are known to come pre-wired to learn languages and to strive for social status (which explains art, politics, philosophy, law and so on) — what is that if not instincts?
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