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1. mothba+(OP)[view] [source] 2026-01-08 14:46:24
de jure illegal but unenforced is de facto legal.

de jure legal but enforced is de facto illegal.

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2. croon+W4[view] [source] 2026-01-08 15:10:53
>>mothba+(OP)
Which is why de facto legality is very low value discussion fodder in an environment of rampant unenforcement of laws.
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3. mothba+J7[view] [source] [discussion] 2026-01-08 15:24:00
>>croon+W4
Quite the contrary, in such an environment it is even more important to figure out what is de facto legal because you cannot count on reading the law to determine such.
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4. mindsl+LM[view] [source] 2026-01-08 18:32:16
>>mothba+(OP)
As someone who often makes a distinction between de jure and de facto, "de facto legal" is an oxymoron. Per Gödel, that lets you prove anything.
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5. croon+mt2[view] [source] [discussion] 2026-01-09 07:50:41
>>mothba+J7
In such an environment "what" is irrelevant, it's merely about "who".
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