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Doesn't make sense to me that a 400lb obese person would need to consume the same amount of protein as a 400lb lean muscle bodybuilder.

All of the protein recommendations I've seen were for lean mass. You don't feed fat.

>>tejohn+(OP)
> Doesn't make sense to me that a 400lb obese person would need to consume the same amount of protein as a 400lb lean muscle bodybuilder.

yeah both of those people are extreme cases that would break this very crude formula

>>tejohn+(OP)
Correct, and the guideline on the "realfood.gov" site doesn't say it but all the protein g/kg body weight I've seen (mostly relative to weight training or building muscle) are in terms of kg of lean body mass, not total body weight.

>>tejohn+(OP)
I am not 400lbs... I don't know if you are implying that... if so check your math:

1.2g/kg * 90kg (~200lbs-lean) = 108g of protein.

each person, on average, in the US would be eating one 16oz steak or 3-5 hamburgers every day.

>>omgJus+0N
A 16oz steak is over 50% protein, or over double your entire daily target. Hamburger count could be right, if you are eating McDonald's burgers or similar. But then you are not following the guidelines, with far too much processed grains and added sugars.

>>stubis+Pd1
Your beef is with wiki or facts :

"high scores: braised eye-of-round steak 40.62; broiled t-bone steak (porterhouse) 32.11; grilled lean steak 31.0 " numbers are grams per hundred grams or wiki also reports 25% as the average, thus your factor of 2 error in weight (400 instead of 200).

Sincerely,

You-cannot-read-or-convert-units-or-gather-info-correctly

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_foods_by_protein_conte...

>>tejohn+(OP)
All these things are actually rules of thumb that aim to be easy, and less focused on accurate.

A reasonably close rule of thumb can actually be 1g of protein per cm of height.

Also not accurately represented is that your body absorbs less protein per gram consumed the older you get. (I couldnt find a source with an actual ratio, just recommendations for _more_ as you get older).

When listening to folks like Layne Norton, they have said that surprisingly many people who simply increase their protein inadvertently begin to lose weight due to greater satiety per net calorie. (remember, roughly 20% of protein calories are lost in digesting/absorbing/converting the protein)

>>omgJus+Kl2
For some more perspective:

Cranberry's & nut mix - 34g (total) have 8g of protein

1 cup of milk - roughly 8g of protein

This is a pretty light breakfast of 16g of protein. How about a 'big, bold breakfast':

2 eggs - 12 g of protein

4 bacon strips - 12 g of protein

1 cup of hash browns - 3 g of protein

(other carbs pancakes etc going to have < 1g of protein)

So in the 'big, bold breakfast' => 27 g of proteins, I would be 3g behind my daily, average protein intake for the morning.

2 hamburgers for lunch, that's 30g of protein, keeping me close to my daily, average protein intake for lunch.

8 oz steak for dinner, thats 56g of protein.

In total: 27+30+56 = 112g of protein, just 4 g over needed daily, average intake of protein.

Resisting the sarcasm, this is not reasonable.

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