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Every time I read one of these, I'm increasingly convinced that the whole AI crowd are just high as kites 24/7. Must be some good drugs in the valley

>>swiftc+(OP)
They are high on ego and self-importance, that they are.

>>swiftc+(OP)
I mean a higher than average amount of them are, there is a whole psychadelics movement within tech. Just look at Elon Musk and his ketamine usage.

>>swiftc+(OP)
The shocking changes to the culture over the last 20 years start to make a lot more sense when you realize someone decided to flood the society with mass quantities of prescription Amphetamines.

>>swiftc+(OP)
Investors are getting impatient

>>swiftc+(OP)
> the whole AI crowd

It's far from a homogenous crowd. Yegge stands out with extreme opinions even from people who adopted the new tools daily.

>>swiftc+(OP)
Gergely Orosz (The Pragmatic Engineer) interviewed Yegge [1] and Kent Beck [2], both experienced engineers before vibe coding, and they express similar sentiments about how LLMs reinvigorated their enjoyment of programming. This introduction to Gas Town is very clear on its intended audience with plenty of warnings against overly eager adoption. I agree that using tools like this haphazardly could lead to disaster, but I would not dismiss the possibility that they could be used productively.

1. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TZE33qMYwsc

2. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aSXaxOdVtAQ

>>CPLX+9f
prescription amphetamines don't do this if you are taking the prescribed dose (and you're not getting enough prescribed to get anywhere near high)

>>swiftc+(OP)
It's techno-freemasonry. One must break through the symbolism. The author wielding it and transmitting it cannot just plainly say the knowledge. We don't have the vocabulary or grammar for these new things, so storytelling and story universes convey it. The zoomorphism and cinematic references ground us in what all these bots are doing mimetically.

I'm excited the author shared and so exuberantly; that said I did quick-scroll a bunch of it. It is its own kind of mind-altering substance, but we have access to mind-bending things.

If you look at my AgentDank repo [1], one could see a tool for finding weed, or you could see connecting world intelligence with SQL fluency and pairing it with curated structured data to merge the probabilistic with the deterministic computing forms. Which I quickly applied to the OSX Screentime database [2].

Vibe coding turned a corner in November and I'm creating software in ways I would have never imagined. Along with the multimodal capabilities, things are getting weirder than ever.

Mr Yegge now needs to add a whole slew of characters to Gas Town to maintain multi-modal inputs and outputs and artifacts.

Just two days I go, I had LLMs positioning virtual cameras to render 3D models it created using the Swift language after looking at a picture of what to make, and then "looking" at the results to see the next code changes. Crazy. [3]

ETA: It was only 14 months earlier that I was amazed that a multi-modal model could identify a trend in a chart [4].

[1] https://github.com/AgentDank/dank-mcp

[2] https://github.com/AgentDank/screentime-mcp

[3] https://github.com/ConAcademy/WeaselToonCadova/

[4] https://github.com/NimbleMarkets/ollamatea/blob/main/cmd/ot-...

>>swiftc+(OP)
They’re the new bitcoin bros.

>>zipy12+pe
"Lets make extreme generalizations about tens of thousands of people because of an extremely unique outlier (who doesn't even belong to that group of people)."

>>notfro+dO
Yeah, well, lots of people aren't doing that.

This is instantly recognizable as the work of someone who's been up for a couple days on Adderall.

Of course, there may be other explanations, including other drugs. But if I was one to bet...

>>CPLX+mj1
The writing doesn't feel particularly out of character for Yegge, who has always been at least a bit like this. (Though I don't know if that's just him, or drugs as well.)

>>hungry+Ec1
Ok fine, here is some data that isn't from a unique outlier:

"Psychedelics are the latest employee health benefit" (tech company) https://www.ft.com/content/e17e5187-8aa7-4564-9e63-eec294226...

"A new psychedelic era dawns in America" (specifically about use in california) https://www.ft.com/content/5b64945f-da21-46d9-853f-c949a95b9...

"How Silicon Valley rediscovered LSD" https://www.ft.com/content/0a5a4404-7c8e-11e7-ab01-a13271d1e...

I could go on, but the knowledge that psychadelic drugs are prominent in the tech community is not a new fact.

>>swiftc+(OP)
I just tune out and wonder why someone thought it's good idea to link it and expose others to the suffering

>>reedla+4K
Beck was in Melbourne a few weeks ago, and his take on LLM usage was so far divorced from what Yegge is doing that their views on what LLMs are capable of in early 2026 are irreconcilable.

>>zipy12+pe
Also, Bill Atkinson of Apple fame.

>>44530767

(posted here a few months back)

>>reedla+4K
Anecdote, but some of the time when I am blasted after a day of thinking for my job all day a design session randomly throwing shit at an LLM hits the spot. I usually make some meaningful progress on a pet project. I rarely let the LLM do much pure vibe coding. I iterate with several LLMs until it looks and feels right and then hack on it myself or let the LLM do drudgery like refactoring or boilerplate to get me over the humps. In that sense I do strongly agree.

>>ludici+942
What does Beck think?

>>kaycey+Hf8
He was the keynote at YOW! so I can't capture all the nuance and hope I'm not doing him a disservice with my interpretation, but the tl;dr is he:

"LLMs drastically decrease the cost of experimenting during the very earliest phases of a project, like when you're trying to figure out if the thing is even worth building or a specific approach might yield improvements, but loses efficacy once you're past those stages. You can keep using LLMs sustainably with a very tight loop of telling it to do the thing the cleaning up the results immediately, via human judgement."

I.e, I don't think he can relate at all to the experience of letting them run wild and getting a good result.