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Was going to submit this but it was already submitted and then flagged.

It’s true, email is probably unfixable. It’s ok as a digital postcard though, and sometimes that’s all you need. If we could finally get rid of either SMS or email I’d have to pick SMS. But we’re probably stuck with both due to politics and network effects.

I didn’t see any mention of Delta Chat as an attempt to secure email. I do like Delta Chat on chatmail servers (see https://chatmail.at/doc/relay/faq.html#what-is-the-differenc...). Signal is better security-wise but I am very much oriented towards federation or full decentralization. For myself, I worry more about a service being blocked than I do targeted attacks, although I understand that others have different threat models.

>>iamnot+(OP)
IMO DeltaChat is better thought of as “chat tunnel disguised over email” and works best when there is no consideration made for traditional mailbox compatibility, since its killer feature is inbox-fluidity due to only using them as dumb relays and so you can change/add multiple randomly generated fallback addresses for the same identity without being tied to any one inbox.

>>xeonmc+aJ
If I understand correctly, blocking is basically impossible unless a "citizen" is blocked from using any mail server not regulated by a specific country that then demands scanning for it?

>>iamnot+(OP)
Chat over email isn’t email. The good thing about email is that it isn’t chat.

>>HoJojo+Zha
I’m more thinking in terms of mailbox-as-identity being a single point of failure leaving you at the mercy of choosing one reliable provider, whereas mailbox-agility means you can migrate transparently. An analogy I would make would be akin to your personal website having your own domain name and hosting on GitHub pages, instead of having your GitHub pages address as your permanent handle.