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We've built stacks so high we're afraid to jump off.

Nobody is really competing because nobody can build a complete product. So there's less pressure to fix the little irritations. Users are mostly satisfied, and problems get worse slowly enough that for the average user they don't notice right away how bad it's getting. So they stay because it's too hard or completely impossible to leave.

>>nixpul+(OP)
I think the bigger issue is the update model. In the past, if a new version sucked, people wouldn't upgrade. Now with subscriptions / continuous delivery, there's less ability to vote with one's wallet/feet

>>anonym+C2
That's related.

If you're dependent on updating your OS for security fixes and basic compatibility, you are also forced to update the things you may not want to. It's all bundled together.

>>nixpul+F3
But it's not just the OS, but apps too, to say nothing of web SaaS products.

How many times have you launched something only to find the UI had been redone, some feature was now gone or changed, something that worked was now broken, etc.

But it's fine, you see, because we have telemetry and observability and robust CI/CD.

Users and their work are nothing more than ephemeral numbers on a metrics dashboard

>>anonym+C2
100% this. And cars are following down this road as well. For example, my Tesla 3 radio will go bonkers every so often and will refuse to change the channel, no matter what I do. Tapping a new channel icon changes the "currently playing" view, but the audio from the original channel continues to play. This happens until you restart the entire UI (by turning off the car or rebooting the display).

But, hey, they managed to add a Tron cross-over tie-in feature, and maybe some new fart noises!

Undoubtedly when they fix that radio bug, something else will fail. Like the SRS (supplemental restraint system, aka airbag) error message that was introduced at some point in the past six months, then silently got fixed with a more recent firmware update.

>>ipytho+Dh
> But, hey, they managed to add a Tron cross-over tie-in feature, and maybe some new fart noises!

And, you know, FSD 14.2. :)

>>nixpul+F3
Except if you use OS that respects you, e.g., Debian. In the latter, security updates can be installed independently. On phones, there is Mobian.

>>fsflov+1I
This does not always work for specific programs which do not do that, and even then, there are updates that you might want other than security updates without updating other parts of the same program. Separate programs can usually be updated individually, but if they are all in one program then it can make it more difficult (sometimes configuration can be done but not always; sometimes they change things that make this not work either).

>>anonym+6f
100%

Ownership is a critical and fading concept for software. And it makes me really sad and frustrated.