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1. graeme+(OP)[view] [source] 2025-10-01 12:13:51
The internet is an extremely useful educational resource. It provides ways of communicating with people you want your kids to communicate with. it needs management by parents.

My kids have learned a huge amount from the internet. I have guided them, discussed what are credible resources, the harms possible etc, who they talk to and what they tell them....

There are solutions that would make it easier for parents - people need tools to manage this. Require that children use child safe SIM cards in their phones (they are available already - EE advertisers them). Home internet connections should be by filtered by default that can then be turned off (or off for particular devices in the ISP supplied router that most people have).

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2. stef25+z4[view] [source] 2025-10-01 12:46:24
>>graeme+(OP)
> It provides ways of communicating with people you want your kids to communicate with

Who do you want your kids to communicate with over the internet ?

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3. Aurorn+T6[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-10-01 13:01:38
>>stef25+z4
Their friends and family, obviously.

I’m surprised by all of the comments assuming the internet can’t possibly have any value for kids in any way, shape, or form. Did HN commenters grow up and forget what it’s like to be a kid with friends? With an interest in games or technology or discovery?

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4. stephe+Xc[view] [source] 2025-10-01 13:36:06
>>graeme+(OP)
Internet should not be filtered by default, that’s ridiculous. Either make it a separate product that large ISPs have to offer (like you either choose the ‘internet package’ or the ‘child-safe filtered internet package’) or ask people as part of the sign-up flow whether they want filtering.

I think it’s bad for society to treat adults as children, I’m happy that it should be made obviously available (there’s some merit to the argument that tech-illiterate parents often don’t know devices they give their kids have parental controls at all), but not on by default.

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5. Batter+4F2[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-10-02 07:00:59
>>stephe+Xc
Not only offer them - if they have children in the house, they are forced to use the child-friendly version, no exceptions. Or when we switch to ipv6 each device can have a static IP and they go on a list (child or adult) and those devices sit on a different subnet.

As bad as it is to treat adults as children, it is equally (or worse) to treat children as adults.

Parental control only get you so far. Even if we conjure the perfect tech system to manage this, remember that children were being exploited long before the internet. Bending the internet will not solve the problem, just alleviate the current flavour of child abuse, and force it back offline.

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6. Batter+nF2[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-10-02 07:04:18
>>Aurorn+T6
Yes and most of us were exposed to porn before the age of 15, because one friend had internet faster than dailup. We even had a guy in our school that used to sell cd-roms filled with porn. This was before smart phones. Its one thing playing with tech & discovery, another thing having your first sexual experience be on a screen, as a child. It has lasting affects on your development.

Oh, and a good chunk of abuse happens by friends & family, not strangers.

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7. Aurorn+hf3[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-10-02 13:19:25
>>Batter+nF2
> We even had a guy in our school that used to sell cd-roms filled with porn. This was before smart phones.

Before that, porn was printed on paper magazines and, not surprisingly, sought out by and distributed among curious teenagers.

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