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1. panstr+(OP)[view] [source] 2025-10-01 10:38:43
Honestly, I think this is quite naive view of the problem. The negative properties are emergent and emerge from even the simplest rules you can think of. Sort something by likes and you create feedback loop that incentivises attention seeking behaviour.

HN of course have all of these problems, just look at what we're doing now. It's in some ways better and some ways worse than others.

It's trendy these days to blame the algorithm or social media companies, but these problems are way more fundamental. Thinking that this platform and even you yourself is somehow immune to this is delusional.

> an end-goal of increasing time-on-site, engagement, addiction, outrage, and similar measures

Yea, again, this is naive oversimplification that's just been popular recently, but those are not endgoals and often go against platform goals. Outraged users don't click ads and increase revenue, they cause problems, drive other people away from the platform, same is true for the other issues.

As somebody who's been working on a social media platform for 7 years, I just can't hear this stuff anymore. Those problems exist, they are hard and much deeper and more difficult to solve than most people think.

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