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1. Someon+(OP)[view] [source] 2025-09-24 15:28:20
What's crazy to me is why they didn't go for that kind of implementation. This works well, ensures privacy, can be audited easily, and doesn't need a f*cking app on my phone.
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2. jwally+s1[view] [source] 2025-09-24 15:35:10
>>Someon+(OP)
If I work for Aylo (pornhub, etc) I'm telling every fintech and click-and-mortar bank who wants more customers to do this yesterday!

"Hey third fifth of Oregon! Do you want to triple your customer base in Oregon for the cost of a small dev team and 1 month of work?!"

> f*cking app on my phone

I need another app on my phone like I need another hole in my head...

3. f_devd+T6[view] [source] 2025-09-24 15:56:36
>>Someon+(OP)
If you read the guidelines they actually want to implement a double-blind approach with ZKPs, which imo is significantly better than a challenge-response pub key system in term of privacy.

If you're not familiar this would mean the verifier doesn't learns anything except a statement about attributes (age, license, etc); and the EU doesn't learn what attributes have been tried to verify or by who.

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4. jwally+Gf[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-09-24 16:32:39
>>f_devd+T6
Not asking to troll or be a jerk. Promise.

What would need to happen in the United States to implement a reliable ZKP age verification system - and how long would it take to roll it out?

Asking because it feels like the Titanic has sunk, and we're eschewing a floating door because the coast guard has regulation conformant life rafts that would work better.

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5. f_devd+Rn[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-09-24 17:11:19
>>jwally+Gf
> United States to implement a reliable ZKP age verification system (my emphesis)

Realistically at least 3-4 years, assuming they want to keep the same goals as eIDAS. I think the (software) implementation will be the least costly part, time-wise; but it takes a long time before everyone adopts a new social system. Especially in the US where there has been no precedent for digital identification. Even with full control of your own ID & and solid implementation details, there will be push-back just for suggesting that people/companies should adopt it.

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