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1. pjmlp+(OP)[view] [source] 2025-08-26 14:57:56
I really would like to have been payed to use Windows phones, especially as former Nokia employee.

I was in Espoo, the week following the burning platforms memo.

However it represented a third option, to a percentage no Linux phone distribution has ever achieved since Open Moko.

Maybe Maemo could have been it, had not been for Nokia's board decision to bring in Elop.

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2. avar+GU5[view] [source] 2025-08-28 09:39:57
>>pjmlp+(OP)

    > I really would like to have been payed
    > to use Windows phones
I meant paid in the indirect sense of being the beneficiary of a loss leader for Microsoft.

I.e. I'm poking holes in your (somewhat unstated) premise that they'd already reached around 10% of marketshare, and could have just organically grown from there. As reporting at the time shows[1] the average selling price of these phones was €72.4.

So Microsoft (Nokia, but we all know who was really running/paying for the show) were spending a lot of money to buy themselves into the market, and just barely holding on to double digit market share for a bit there by subsidizing entry level phones.

1. https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2013/oct/01/microsoft...

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