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I have been a computer user, developer and a system administrator for longer than I care to recount. I don't like Windows and I don't use it at work or home. But I do encounter it from time to time, and the experience is worse each time. The last time it happened, I couldn't figure out the way to skip/bypass the cloud account set up. Would it have been possible if I tried harder, starting with a web search? Perhaps. But there is no way an average system user is going to have the patience or often the skill necessary to do it. I'm not challenging their intelligence. But people have other priorities than to jump through a dozen hoops just to preserve privacy. I would do the same if I had to set up a Windows system for urgent work.

These sorts of hurdles exist to push more and more users to their favorite workflow until the dissenting voice is too feeble to notice when they finally pull the plug on the straightforward method. The intent is certainly there, since they are quite evidently boiling the frog. Just wait for the fine day when you wake up in the morning to see an HN story just like this one about Windows login as well.

>>goku12+(OP)
IIRC the method was to press F10 to open cmd and run a command there. I've heard that something changed in recent builds and it's harder

>>goku12+(OP)
>But there is no way an average system user is going to have the patience or often the skill necessary to do it

Doesnt this pretty much describe the entirety of the Linux experience though?

>>goku12+(OP)
I was using Linux for 10+ years consistently before starting my current role, which is for a Windows-only business. And my god, the first few months was super annoying. ctrl+alt+t doesn't open a terminal?! click, click, click. No Vim. Wtf.

Setting things up was much more complicated as well. But I stuck it out, still hate Windows, but I've gotten a bit used to it.

> But there is no way an average system user is going to have the patience or often the skill necessary to do it.

It's like two commands. Super easy.

>>whatam+Tq1
> But I stuck it out, still hate Windows, but I've gotten a bit used to it.

So you tolerate it. Matches what I felt. But it was more the stuff I couldn't control - like the timing of the updates and the incessant ads.

> It's like two commands. Super easy.

For you, yes. But problem for the average user is the patience required to figure it out. Also, I think the edition I used didn't have that option at all. Because I vaguely remember searching for a solution and not finding one that worked for me. Whatever it was, it will soon be like that for more or less everyone.

>>skeezy+s01
That's why most people are not on Linux. I'm not talking about people who can search the internet or kids who just keep at it till they figure out the registry in two days. I'm talking about people who have absolutely no interest in the machine other than to browse the internet or use the office suite. Surprisingly, there are far more of such people than you'd imagine.

>>Perz1v+kQ
Eh! I really hope that nobody forces me onto windows again.