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i remember when this happened during an actual crisis, in 2008, republicans all over cried on the radio day after day, arguing that it's socialiasm.

But now, crickets!!

>>naijab+(OP)
They were still complaining about Solyndra over a decade later.

>>naijab+(OP)
The Republican party of 2008 bears little resemblance to the one of 2025, especially on economic issues. Many in the party have changed their views over the last decade+ on industrial policy and the libertarian wing of the party has very little influence now. It's really a striking shift.

What remains of the "old guard" is, in fact, loudly complaining about this move:

https://www.nationalreview.com/2025/08/the-government-should...

>>naijab+(OP)
Exactly! I know there's a lot of Trumpers/MAGAs on HN, so I'm sincerely asking them: How is this not the evil thing you guys constantly lecture us about (socialism!)?

>>naijab+(OP)
For me as a vague 1920s maybe-the-SocDems, I see this as vaguely positive. A return to pragmatism from market dogmatism.

I see some of the tariff stuff and the US protectionism sort of the same way, although I don't approve, since I think the US uniquely benefits from this kind of thing due to that the dollar is such a predominant reserve currency and since I think it's badly done and will backfire, tarring what in principle be sensible policies if carefully targeted with being Trumpist.

>>jimt12+u4
It's not the evil thing because it's "their side" doing it.

>>jimt12+u4
Because they only lecture about socialism as a red herring. They only care about power and obtaining it. Fascists have no actual principles other than more power and hatred of others.

>>imposs+h7
This seems more vaguely 1930s maybe-some-other-ism.

>>naijab+(OP)
I am a republican. I even voted for trump. I am categorically against this. In fact, he should be impeached for it, and I have already called my representative (a democrat) telling her she has my vote if she introduces articles of impeachment against him. This is a red line for me. My parents left a third world country to not have to deal with this shit.

>>jimt12+u4
Here's some emergency reading

https://theupheaval.substack.com/p/its-not-hypocrisy-youre-j...

>>naijab+(OP)
Everybody lives on their own personal reality nowadays, but for me the internet has been incredibly loud about it.

>>action+ed
Maybe in this specific case, but I don't see this kind of policy as necessarily ideological.

It's just requires the government to not be totally market dogmatist.