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1. matthe+(OP)[view] [source] 2025-08-15 10:35:47
There are very significant concerns about the actions of the Westminster government recently no doubt – this is stupid legislation, and it compounds with other stupid legislation (see the recent arrests for supporting proscribed groups). Everyone should be protesting this nonsense.

That said, there is equally a clear and obvious effort to distort what is happening. And I don't think anybody should really be taking lessons about "totalitarian oppression" when current US government policy is to send gangs of masked thugs to round up brown people.

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2. xienze+66[view] [source] 2025-08-15 11:31:18
>>matthe+(OP)
Ignoring the usual baiting about how those brown people are illegal aliens and that’s the underlying reason they’re being rounded up — European countries are always held up as the standard the US should strive towards. So yes, it’s fair game for us to criticize them when they do things like police “offensive” speech.
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3. dgrosh+96[view] [source] 2025-08-15 11:31:31
>>matthe+(OP)
The government in power has little to do with the Act, it was passed two years ago by a different party that is now refusing to own the mess that they created. Sure, one can say that the government could be more diligent at repealing bad laws, but the Parliament had quite a few things on its plate already, so it's not surprising that this Act coming into power during the summer recess wasn't high on the agenda.
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4. matthe+F9[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-08-15 11:57:30
>>xienze+66
No, this isn't baiting – it's an actual thing that's happening, regardless of how much you want to remain in denial about it. And I don't care about whatever weird preconceptions you've imposed – European countries have their own struggles to deal with and equally can do it badly. None of this is interesting discussion, and focusing on these weird "purity tests" around hypothetical freedom when ignoring the actual substantive impacts of the policies is why these people keep getting away with their terrible legislation.
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5. matthe+N9[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-08-15 11:58:17
>>dgrosh+96
This is entirely not true, and the government is entirely free to withdraw this stupid, harmful legislation. Do not make excuses, because this is how the Labour Party get away with this sort of stupid action.
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6. eftpot+7c[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-08-15 12:14:33
>>dgrosh+96
Passed with the support of the current governing party, it should be noted.
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7. dgrosh+Sj[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-08-15 13:03:42
>>matthe+N9
The government can't "withdraw" an Act of Parliament, only the Parliament can, by passing a new bill.

It's not a Labour Party's action, the deadline was written into the act two years ago.

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