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1. johnis+(OP)[view] [source] 2025-08-13 15:30:38
I think the problem here is N = 1..4 or whatever.

The issue is there, they were just there at a time where these people who are snatching weren't there. 18 phone snatching per day on one street, but not at all hours, and not on all streets. It varies. But yeah, we want people's experiences. Maybe some of these people on HN did not experience it. Perhaps they could ask their friends and the friends of their friends.

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2. vidarh+J02[view] [source] 2025-08-14 06:57:01
>>johnis+(OP)
The Crime Survey carries out large-scale surveys of a sample of 75,000 households. It's not some dinky little opinion poll.

It's not going to be perfect, but it gives a very solid snapshot of peoples experience with crime without the massive distortion we know we get from looking at similar sized samples asked what they think crime levels are.

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3. dragon+o12[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-08-14 07:03:51
>>vidarh+J02
> The Crime Survey carries out large-scale surveys of a sample of 75,000 households. It's not some dinky little opinion poll.

So? Sample size only addresses sampling error, not nonsampling error, for nonsampling error its exactly as bad as the dinkiest little poll on the same topic (and for sampling error, it's not much better; polls are the sizes they typically are because it doesn't actually take a very large scale to be fairly reliable when you only consider sampling error, and, again, adding more size doesn't help at all against nonsampling error.)

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4. foldr+l62[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-08-14 07:49:30
>>dragon+o12
Ok, so what nonsampling errors in the Crime Survey make it unreliable in your view? What would you suggest as an alternative source of information about crime levels in England and Wales?
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