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1. conart+(OP)[view] [source] 2025-08-13 11:24:22
If you have nothing to hide you have nothing to fear.

We are going to be hearing that argument a lot as the AI police state evolves

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2. ebiest+qd[view] [source] 2025-08-13 13:04:50
>>conart+(OP)
And you’re not trans. And you don’t perform drag. And you don’t go to an event with a lot of gay people. And you don’t get mistaken for someone because ai isn’t perfect. (Especially if your race doesn’t have many people in the dataset.)

But the people that don’t have anything to fear don’t see anything wrong with “inconveniencing” these groups.

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3. spwa4+hj[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-08-13 13:39:20
>>ebiest+qd
This is the UK, and it's the police controlling these vans. So trans, drag and gay are not at issue here.

And somehow, the countries where it is a problem are never discussed. All muslim countries, for example, almost like not all religions are equal ... if you read hrw or amnesty you'll find that even the most moderate muslim countries like Morocco or Turkey deal violently with sexuality (all forms, really, yes, being trans drag will, of course, attract immediate attention. But let's not pretend they leave public displays of straight sexuality (including subtle and tasteful) alone). And Morocco and Turkey are absolutely nothing like something like Afghanistan or even Iran.

But in the UK the line is drawn pretty damn far. Are you seriously complaining about that?

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4. ivell+ZC[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-08-13 15:13:27
>>spwa4+hj
I guess at present the UK is very tolerant. But no one can predict the future. It can go downhill. Even for developed western countries. Once surveillance is setup, it is hard to restrict its usage. Especially when the society gets used to it.
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5. EliRiv+d81[view] [source] 2025-08-13 17:43:29
>>conart+(OP)
I have so much to hide.

I want to hide what I had for breakfast. I want to hide what books I read recently. I want to hide which TV shows I watch. I want to hide who I have conversations with. I want to hide who I avoid. I engage in so much completely legal behaviour, much of it quite laudable, that I simply want to hide.

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6. ebiest+Ih1[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-08-13 18:28:16
>>spwa4+hj
I'm in particular speaking about the UK, actually. consider how much anti-trans backlash there has been in the country. Consider how in Weimar Germany there was a fair bit of acceptance for the LGBT community that was quickly undone - all it takes is a charismatic leader or a king that goes along with it.
7. TomasB+9M2[view] [source] 2025-08-14 07:40:03
>>conart+(OP)
"It's not that I have something to hide. It's that I have nothing I want you to see."

A great quote from an otherwise OK movie ("Anon").

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8. scoot+5R2[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-08-14 08:23:14
>>EliRiv+d81
Laudable, or laughable? I only ask because "laudable" didn't quite seem to fit with most of the examples you gave.
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9. voidUp+Vu3[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-08-14 14:07:23
>>ivell+ZC
Not for trans people, especially trans women
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10. EliRiv+a39[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-08-16 10:07:43
>>scoot+5R2
Laudable too. I do things that are laudable, that most of society would applaud, that I nonetheless routinely do not disclose and sometimes hide. You will note, perhaps, that I didn't disclose them.
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11. scoot+ufg[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-08-19 08:44:23
>>EliRiv+a39
Got it! Thanks for clarifying
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