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Idk age restricting Instagram, TikTok etc. might be good for teenagers mental health.

>>ngruhn+(OP)
I agree. If we have to have age verification laws I'd rather they be applied to social media networks over some size than to porn sites.

That said, I think requiring ID is generally a bad idea regardless. Much better would be some standardized way for websites to tag the type of content in a header coupled with third party filtering solutions that could be applied at the network (ie firewall) or device level.

>>ngruhn+(OP)
It’d be good for all mental health. Banning the whole thing is probably a lot more sensible, but then people would have to face their own addictions.

>>ngruhn+(OP)
If the parents want they can restrict their usage. I prefer to monitor and teach my children how to use technology properly, and that also includes of course sex education because it's not by banning porn sites till they are 18+ that you solve the issue to me, but by educating.

Unfortunately we have among sex and other things still the mentality of 1900, except that today most 18 year old already lost their virginity, and he can't watch porn? Well...

>>fc417f+V3
We already have standards:

PICS https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Platform_for_Internet_Content_...

POWDER https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protocol_for_Web_Description_R...

ASACP/RTA https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Association_of_Sites_Advocatin...

What seem to lack is the will power to use them. Or after seeing in the linked site:

  *EU politicians exempt themselves from this surveillance under "professional secrecy" rules. They get privacy. You and your family do not. Demand fairness. 

they really want mass surveillance for the plebs even by creating a weak point for enemies. To hell not just with rights but also defence. So any excuse will do.

>>Electr+op
Well don't I feel like an uninformed dumbass. Talk of standards aside, pornhub apparently includes the following header if you visit it.

rating: RTA-5042-1996-1400-1577-RTA

RTA stands for "restricted to adults". So the large websites, ie the entities that would actually be bound by any proposed legislation, are already proactively facilitating network operators and parents filtering them out. And apparently have been all along. Wild.

>>fc417f+ot
Yes, many sites already have it, RTA is nearly 3 decades old. It seems new proposed laws always ignore such systems are not just a theory but in a reality in use.

What happens over and over only reinforces they idea that they really want "everyone, empty your pockets and show your papers, NOW!" laws and just hide it with "it's the only way, trust us; for the children!". A pretty telling proof is they want to be exempt.

>>alerig+Yi
> Unfortunately we have among sex and other things still the mentality of 1900, except that today most 18 year old already lost their virginity, and he can't watch porn?

I think there are good arguments for claiming porn is more harmful than actual sex at that age, or at least some types or porn.

I agree that if the aim of the legislation was really to stop kids watching porn it would be better served by making it mandatory for ISPs to provide filtered connections for households with minors and filtered SIM cards for minors.

>>graeme+FE
> I agree that if the aim of the legislation was really to stop kids watching porn it would be better served by making it mandatory for ISPs to provide filtered connections for households with minors and filtered SIM cards for minors.

Without thinking about it too deeply, that does sound reasonable. Was that ever discussed? Why was it not, or was rejected?

>>alerig+Yi
Most parents do not have the technical skills to effectively limit that usage. The vast majority may not even be aware that software tools and features exist that could limit it. For that matter, I am aware, and the features on most products are insufficient... I shouldn't have to block Youtube at the router-level, but that's about the only thing I can do. Works for the Xbox, which is plugged into ethernet, but it won't work for the iPhone since it just does fallback to cell service. What's to stop the kid from buying some cheap Android device and swapping in their sim, so they can get around Apple's parental controls?

>except that today most 18 year old already lost their virginity, True when we were kids. But bizarrely less true today.

>>FabHK+GV
It was discussed many years ago. ISPs used to offer it. EE, at least, still offers filtered SIM cards.

Its not in wide use, and I think most people do not know its an option and it has no lobby group pushing for it so I am sure politicians do not know about it.