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1. riv991+(OP)[view] [source] 2025-07-28 13:46:15
> So it is in a bad state because it does not receive enough money, that's it

In real terms the budget is the largest it's ever been, it's a relic of the time when people worked and died shortly (a decade) after retiring, not when they live for 30+ years longer.

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2. nicobu+R9[view] [source] 2025-07-28 14:51:03
>>riv991+(OP)
> In real terms the budget is the largest it's ever been

Which it needs to be given the demographic changes you note. It's about 15% smaller per capita than comparable countries spend. That would suggest that we need to increase the budget if we want comparable service.

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3. vidarh+jb[view] [source] 2025-07-28 14:59:32
>>riv991+(OP)
It's still one of the cheapest healthcare systems among similarly wealthy countries per capita - it's seriously underfunded.

To bring it to a comparable level to similarly wealthy countries would take an increase in funding of 20%-30%.

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4. graeme+on[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-07-28 16:16:26
>>nicobu+R9
That has changed in recent years. Now greater than in France in absolute spend per capita, would need a 7.5% increase to match in terms of GDP. It would still require a 15% increase to match Germany in absolute per capita, but only 8.5% in percentage of GDP.

https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/SH.XPD.CHEX.PC.CD?locat... https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/SH.XPD.CHEX.GD.ZS?end=2...

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