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1. dottjt+(OP)[view] [source] 2025-07-28 06:51:31
This might be a dumb question, but is it possible for the UK government to ban VPN usage within the UK?
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2. xdfgh1+h[view] [source] 2025-07-28 06:54:05
>>dottjt+(OP)
They banned porn with choking in it. They banned toy advertising in the evening. They tried to ban client side encryption for iCloud. Make no mistake they will go for vpns too.
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3. 0x264+z[view] [source] 2025-07-28 06:56:24
>>dottjt+(OP)
No they can't. Myself, and quite a few other people, need it for work.
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4. b800h+q2[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-07-28 07:14:06
>>0x264+z
They could force you to provide ID in order to use it though.
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5. isaacr+14[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-07-28 07:33:37
>>xdfgh1+h
100%.

Funnily enough. They just need to claim it's "protecting the children" and people fall for it.

The funniest part is that high profile criminal cases go unpunished very visibly. Even if they have minors in their context, because the elite figures in question must be protected from the enforcement of rules.

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6. adamma+G5[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-07-28 07:47:10
>>0x264+z
Do you think that will stop them? They tried to ban encryption for petes sake.
7. crimso+X6[view] [source] 2025-07-28 07:56:11
>>dottjt+(OP)
I mean, it's a sovereign state. The government can legislate for the sky to be purple if it wants to (though obviously that won't affect actual reality).
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8. badpen+a8[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-07-28 08:08:09
>>isaacr+14
I may well be wrong, but I suspect that the number of people who "fall for" the protect-the-children narrative, at least to the degree where they believe the proposed change is effective enough to justify it, isn't very large.

I'd argue it works because it's a rhetorical tactic that's highly effective at suppressing dissent. Anybody sticking their head above the parapet is going to get painted as somebody who favours pornography over the safety of children, even though this legislation and opposition to it has very little to do with either.

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9. lan321+Mg[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-07-28 09:35:45
>>b800h+q2
Encryption with the only private key allowed being your SSN equivalent. :)
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10. isaacr+es[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-07-28 11:21:36
>>badpen+a8
In my experience, people in real life do absolutely parrot the talking points that are deemed to be good (TM). Whether they do it out of fear or not, ends up being a moot point since they create an environment of apparent cohesion.
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11. Spivak+IJ[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-07-28 13:39:55
>>xdfgh1+h
Banning porn depicting choking "to protect women from violence" is so funny. You could not ask for a better example of moral panic from people that didn't do their research. Choking is a strongly women preferred kink.
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12. flumpc+mf1[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-07-28 16:56:50
>>Spivak+IJ
There's also a reported epidemic of women being choked during sex unprovoked, and who certainly don't want it. Unfortunately these laws are being made from things happening in the real world that get traction.

Is the law a good way to stop this? I don't know. The main tool of governance for our elected leaders are laws, and so that's what they do.

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13. tim333+yi2[view] [source] 2025-07-28 22:59:47
>>dottjt+(OP)
It's possible but I don't think they will.
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14. const_+5Q2[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-07-29 03:55:37
>>flumpc+mf1
I have no reason to believe pornography caused that. If anything, I'm more quick to assume puritan values caused that.

We don't teach people about consent and sex. We tell them stupid things like "don't have sex, it's evil" and then send them off. And then stupid things ensue.

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15. flumpc+Ns3[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-07-29 09:53:36
>>const_+5Q2
There's not a lot of puritan values going around in the UK. Meanwhile the violence in pornography is very evident.

https://ifas.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2025/06/CLO_1164_TL1_...

https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/10410236.2021.1...

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16. goopyp+CC4[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-07-29 16:58:09
>>crimso+X6
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