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As opposed to using what, hand gestures? There is simply no production ready hardware with non-proprietary software at all.

>>gf000+(OP)
> As opposed to using what, hand gestures

As opposed to "being free in all senses of the word", which is what the comment was talking about.

>>gf000+(OP)
People go through all sorts of weird mental gymnastics about this. The FSF at one point took the position that binary blobs were cool so long as they could not be upgraded, because then you could pretend they weren't software at all, but just part of the wiring. I've seen this odd line of thought attributed to RMS himself, but here's an FSF statement, from when he was running it: https://www.fsf.org/blogs/community/task2-openmoko

>>gf000+(OP)
Yes, which is a huge problem. This is a big part of why Android phones suck so much ass - you're often stuck on old versions of android because the hardware vendors are too lazy to update their proprietary bullshit blobs that barely fucking work.

And now you're running a two year old phone and it's effectively obsolete.

If they would just upstream their firmware into the Linux kernel, you could upgrade these phones for years and years. Until the hardware is actually physically incapable of running the latest features.

Some vendors, like Google, promise to provide updates for a long time. But it's just that - a promise. There's no technical guarantee or mechanism for this, it's purely based on trust.

>>gf000+(OP)
No production ready -mobile- hardware, I would agree.

The Precursor is promising, but software is not there yet.

I sit down at my desktop computer and send emails and type messages like this one. Then I get up from my desk and spend time with my family offline and present. It's pretty great.