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1. thr0wa+(OP)[view] [source] 2025-07-18 18:00:47
In what world is this not overreach for ICE? It is positively authoritarian.

You just know this goes beyond illegal immigrants. This is some Gestapo shit right there.

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2. noneth+f1[view] [source] 2025-07-18 18:08:02
>>thr0wa+(OP)
The article states that the agreement claims compliance with a 2019 System of Records Notice, which it says allows the data to be used "to assist another federal or state agency."

The article notes that a former information security lead from the VA says the SORN needs to be updated for this specific ICE/CMS agreement and has not been. Clearly that fact is a disputed.

The ACLU argues that the sharing is only allowed if it contributes to the accuracy of Medicare or Medicaid, administers a federal health benefits program, or is necessary to implement a federally funded health benefits program. Im not sure if this it true (sharing only allowed in these cases) but if so it seems reasonable that detecting fraud would contribute to the accuracy and integrity of Medicaid. Furthermore, ICE does administer a federal health benefits program (IHSC [1]), so the basis for the ACLU's objection really seems unfounded, although the administration doesnt cite this basis and is quite upfront that its about identifying illegal aliens.

[1] https://www.ice.gov/detain/ice-health-service-corps

3. jahews+Nn[view] [source] 2025-07-18 20:21:16
>>thr0wa+(OP)
The Gestapo murdered millions. Please don’t throw around such callous and ignorant insults.
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4. saubei+AF[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-07-18 22:26:42
>>jahews+Nn
The Gestapo didn't start by murdering millions. They started by making lists.
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5. EasyMa+me1[view] [source] 2025-07-19 04:32:24
>>thr0wa+(OP)
I personally think it's a first run for a secret police force, maybe coming as soon as next year. This will help them test the waters as well as set up facilities and training centers they can leverage later for a new stasi type force.
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6. EasyMa+qe1[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-07-19 04:33:27
>>saubei+AF
and grabbing people off the street. Most conflagrations start with a spark and not an explosion.
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