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1. diamon+(OP)[view] [source] 2025-07-18 16:44:08
You still think this is just about immigrants? They are coming for the dissenters next, they will just make excuses as to why.
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2. hcurti+q3[view] [source] 2025-07-18 16:57:09
>>diamon+(OP)
What evidence do you have to believe that’s true?
replies(4): >>pksebb+Z7 >>milton+Ea >>bigyab+Rc >>strath+0B
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3. pksebb+Z7[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-07-18 17:18:05
>>hcurti+q3
the 1950s comes to mind...
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4. Geeek+v9[view] [source] 2025-07-18 17:24:27
>>diamon+(OP)
They are coming? They are already here. RE: What the president said about Rosie O'donnell last week. Norms have been eroded and we are now clearly in the laws-are-being-eroded territory.
replies(1): >>djeast+bm
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5. milton+Ea[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-07-18 17:29:30
>>hcurti+q3
Trump just said he's going to try to take Rosie O Donnell's citizenship away.
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6. mrexro+sb[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-07-18 17:33:56
>>pksebb+Z7
… and 2/19/1942.

Two thirds of those required to report to camps for internment, per the Executive Order, were US citizens.

replies(1): >>jahews+kA
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7. bigyab+Rc[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-07-18 17:40:02
>>hcurti+q3
Deportations without due-process, for a start. Why not deprive you of due process, too?
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8. phkahl+ce[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-07-18 17:47:32
>>milton+Ea
Do people still take his comments like that seriously?
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9. kashun+fg[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-07-18 17:58:23
>>phkahl+ce
> Do people still take his comments like that seriously?

Yes, because he has a pattern of staking out one extreme position and then doing something slightly less extreme; but both of which would have been unthinkable when laws and due process meant something.

And also, yes, because joking around is something you do on your own time and when you’re a child. Like not wanting your pilot to announce his intention to do some aerobatic maneuvers on an airline flight. Whether they carry it out or not is almost beside the point.

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10. wombat+Dg[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-07-18 18:00:35
>>phkahl+ce
How are we to know which official statements repeatedly made by the President in public are True?
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11. zippot+Bh[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-07-18 18:06:24
>>phkahl+ce
The people of Greenland do. I'm old enough to remember when that was considered just "one of his jokes".
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12. AlecSc+Ai[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-07-18 18:11:20
>>phkahl+ce
Do people still downplay the seriousness of statements like this?
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13. nozzle+ok[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-07-18 18:21:23
>>phkahl+ce
Yes? Nothing about the prospect of him revoking the citizenship of one of his longtime bugbears seems unlikely at this point. The fact that we're even discussing the "will he, won't he, who knows" right now should be alarming.
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14. microm+Uk[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-07-18 18:24:19
>>phkahl+ce
He's given us more reason to take him seriously than not at this point, you can probably measure it objectively. He's practically perfected "just kidding... unless"
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15. padjo+Ml[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-07-18 18:29:14
>>phkahl+ce
The fact that people are willing to shrug and say he’s just joking is honestly pretty astounding.
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16. ilikec+Ul[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-07-18 18:30:14
>>phkahl+ce
Why wouldn't they? He's the president. As an official of the state he shouldn't say it if he doesn't mean it. The president isn't supposed to be fun or jokey
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17. djeast+bm[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-07-18 18:32:09
>>Geeek+v9
Correct. Rosie is an American citizen born in the US and Trump threatened to "revoke" her citizenship.

We are all provisional citizens at this point.

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18. Terr_+uo[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-07-18 18:46:48
>>phkahl+ce
That's like asking: "Do people still take the elementary-school principal seriously when he keeps joking about having sex with the children?"

First, the situation itself is always serious, because because nobody in that kind of position should ever be "joking" about such a thing.

Second, this guy's not joking. A threat does not become a joke simply because it is weak/unlikely or delivered while chuckling.

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19. speed_+Vo[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-07-18 18:49:34
>>phkahl+ce
If you only take it seriously when it'll be about you, it will be too late.
20. lr4444+gA[view] [source] 2025-07-18 19:56:32
>>diamon+(OP)
Oh really? And charge them with what? The USA doesn't have vague laws around social harmony by which to prosecute people. This is exactly why it's so important to protect so called "hate speech".
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21. jahews+kA[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-07-18 19:56:53
>>mrexro+sb
That was a Democrat president.
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22. strath+0B[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-07-18 20:00:36
>>hcurti+q3
Does the state you live in have concentration camps, yet?
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23. jahews+CC[view] [source] 2025-07-18 20:10:00
>>diamon+(OP)
The tendency to replace what is actually happening with some dark figment of the imagination is telling. Do you have real objections or just conspiracies?
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24. tastyf+0I[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-07-18 20:39:34
>>jahews+CC
This is something that the President is *literally talking about*: https://www.cnn.com/2025/07/18/us/us-citizenship-revocation-...

But, of course, you already know that. So why bother with the theatrics?

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25. Henchm+0P[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-07-18 21:25:11
>>lr4444+gA
How about they just black-bag her and she’s never heard from again? How will we prosecute that overreach and outright law breaking?
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26. Henchm+aP[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-07-18 21:26:48
>>phkahl+ce
Do you not? Prefer not to believe your lying eyes, eh?
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27. tumsfe+1V[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-07-18 22:17:54
>>jahews+kA
Who cares. Doesn't matter who did it, it matters that it happened and you're about to commit the same mistakes again. It matters that you let this slide just because he's your guy.
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28. saubei+1W[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-07-18 22:24:53
>>tastyf+0I
"Never believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past." - Jean Paul Sartre.
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29. hcurti+tY[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-07-18 22:42:08
>>strath+0B
We have several prisons.
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30. heavys+s01[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-07-18 22:58:46
>>lr4444+gA
People are being violently kidnapped off the street by masked men and exiled to secret prisons with zero due process and you're over here worrying about charges and laws lol
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31. AlecSc+221[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-07-18 23:11:01
>>lr4444+gA
They stopped worrying about charging people about two months ago.
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32. pksebb+Xp3[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-07-19 22:23:53
>>tumsfe+1V
For real. I feel like we need a PSA about how many of us aren't supporters of the opposition just because we don't like 'your guy'.

Ronald Reagan was a trash goblin who destroyed our economy to enrich the wealthy.

So was Bill Clinton.

George Bush was a war criminal who indiscriminately bombed brown people.

So was Obama.

Hillary Clinton was a huckster con artist who worked for her wealthy friends.

So is Trump.

Your dichotomy is a trap. There are no good guys because the system itself is rigged in favor of militaristic capitalist oligarchs, which is the actual problem.

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33. mrexro+2A3[view] [source] [discussion] 2025-07-19 23:56:27
>>jahews+kA
For fucks sake, an irrelevant partisan jab is all you can comment? Save that drivel for Reddit and please put a little more thought into your contributions here.

Point is, an Executive Order issued by the President did this to natural born citizens of the United States based on their ethnic background.

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