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The GOP is not a party of small/limited government people. It's a party of people who want absolute control and use the language of small/limited government to gain power.

>>davidc+(OP)
Both parties are the same. Democrats want to make it illegal to protect myself from a violent attacker, enact legislation designed to block poor people from starting businesses, buy votes by promising handouts. They are both filthy and dirty and serve corporations.

>>gosub1+4l
> Both parties are the same.

That is absolutely not true. They occupy very different philosophical spaces and have very different proclivities for extrajudicial acts.

> Democrats … buy votes by promising handouts

Didn’t Mr. Musk do something akin to this in Wisconsin?

> Democrats want to make it illegal to protect myself from a violent attacker.

I couldn’t speak for every elected Democrat but few, if any, stake out a position anywhere close to what you wrote.

>>gosub1+4l
They're both status quo loving elites, but to say they're both the same is complete nonsense. The scale of these ICE camps is something we haven't seen for nearly 100 years. The level of access given to Musk and DOGE is absolutely disgusting. The storming of the Capitol was embarrassing.

>>gosub1+4l
> Democrats want to make it illegal to protect myself from a violent attacker

What an intellectually dishonest take.

>>microm+Eq
I'm all for enforcement of laws. I am very careful to obey the law because I know it will potentially ruin my life if I don't. If you want to change immigration law, that's another topic. But what happened was blue states let them in, created the problem, and now are using the predictable and preventable suffering to try to win voters. This is the second most popular move in their playbook, next to calling everyone a racist. They let their policies cause suffering and say "vote for us and we'll fix it, vote for them and the suffering continues". It's a scam.

>>gosub1+HO
Blue states aren't letting people into Texas. Texas is. They have a number of employers that rely on them.

This will result in thousands of people in cages for undetermined amounts of time with no due process. It's unconstitutional whether or not you're here legally. Democrats are not forcing Republicans to build outdoor prisons to house farm workers and their families.

Not to mention that there are a number of people getting caught up in this that are in the US legally, under asylum claims or birthright citizenship.

Democrats attempted to pass immigration reform twice in 2024 and Republicans shot it down for reasons including the asinine lack of border wall funding.

The impasse is largely that Democrats want to provide a reasonable path to citizenship for people who have already been living and working here (many of whom have been here for decades and have american-born children). Republicans will not budge and chose to impose suffering directly.

>>microm+zQ
>Blue states aren't letting people into Texas. Texas is.

You're going to have to explain what you mean by that: people in the US have a right to move to any state they want, and the state they move to has little say in the matter. The most the government in Texas could do is instruct and incentivize police agencies in Texas to hold illegals till ICE can pick them up, but that only works when ICE is willing to pick them up and deport them.

(Yes, there are employers in Texas that benefit from employing illegal immigrants: those employers lobby the Federal government; they wouldn't bother lobbying the Texas state government.)

>>holler+bR
I'm responding directly to

> But what happened was blue states let them in

which doesn't make sense, there's like 1 "blue" state on the border

states didn't do anything to enable it, the federal government did, and the democrat controlled government tried to reform immigration multiple times

>>kashun+Pn
They still function as Good and Bad Cop for capital in a lot of ways.